MAKIN SURE GEAR IS STERILIZED? IN DIRE NEED OF HELP!!

[jack]

Hey guysssss,

Got a couple silly question that have been bothering the heck out of me.

What is the cause(s) of infections from home made gear?

Are they due to unsterilized gear in the from of baceteria/virsuses or perhaps unclean gear from dirt or dust from contaminated air, apparatus or unclean vials or stoppers?

i am using a filter, so i feel good about the oil after it leaves the filter, what i don't feel good about it the unsterilized vials, stoppers and apparatus.


would love to hear your insight

 

[mexbeast]

i used to get terible iritation when using testoprim-d in mexico until i started puting them in boiling watter and no more problems after that. so i've been doing that eversince with all my oil based products! no infections no iritation! i highly recomend this practice.

 

[MatureMuscle]

makes testoprime D smooth?

It really makes testoprime D smooth? and painfree/It is the most painfull pin i ever experianced!The vials don't break in boiling water/how long do you boil,i have some D,s i never used!thanks.

 

[Corkmoto]

How long should I boil vial/ampule of testoprim-d

I have been getting major pain swelling knots post injection for 3-4 days. I can barely walk or sit and it's very painful. Applying heat and hot showers help but I want to try boiling them in water. Any advice on how long?

 

[tvanny]

There's a whole thread on it...

not too far below this one.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...urs-infections-painful-gear-test-flu-etc.html

 

[Gunsmith]

Sterile vials and needles are way to cheap to even think about reusing. Toss them and get new ones , vial are like$2 each!!

Filter your gear properly

put your bottles in the oven when its cool then turn up to 250 deg after it hits 250 let bake their for 30 min , after the 30 min turn off the oven and leave it let them come back down to room temp. (vent the bottle)

Baking it will cook off alot of the excess BA that may be their and kill any bacteria.

Swab the top of your bottle with alchohol before you stick a needle through the stopper , swab your injection site WELL before you stick the needle in that and when you are done throw it away so their is zero chance of the bad though of reusing it again

 

[lookingforanedge]

Sterile vials and needles are way to cheap to even think about reusing. Toss them and get new ones , vial are like$2 each!!

Filter your gear properly

put your bottles in the oven when its cool then turn up to 250 deg after it hits 250 let bake their for 30 min , after the 30 min turn off the oven and leave it let them come back down to room temp. (vent the bottle)

Baking it will cook off alot of the excess BA that may be their and kill any bacteria.

Swab the top of your bottle with alchohol before you stick a needle through the stopper , swab your injection site WELL before you stick the needle in that and when you are done throw it away so their is zero chance of the bad though of reusing it again

What do you mean by Vent the bottle?

 

[maldorf]

What do you mean by Vent the bottle?

YOu need to stick a needle through the stopper so that the pressure can vent out through it otherwise the stopper will shoot out of the bottle like a bullet once the pressure inside builds enough!

 

[premedmonster]

when u heat the bottle u need to stick a needle in it to vent the air, when gas heats up(any gas) it expands, and if it expands enough it could break the bottle. make sure the needle is in the air not down in the oil or the oil will spill out.

i brew my own and ive never had any problems i use 2% BA sometimes slightly higher and of course i boil it when heating everything before being filtered.

if you want after its all said and done stick the bottles(vented w a needle) in the oven at about 230 degrees for like 20 mins.

if your getting pain from injects its most likely that the person who made it used too much benzyl alcohol

 

[maldorf]

I agree with gunsmith, just buy steriled vials and dont ever resuse them. Between using sterile vials and using a whatman you can rule out a lot of trouble, but even then of course there is still possibility of contamination. Using BA like is needed will help kill some bacteria too.

 

[maldorf]

when u heat the bottle u need to stick a needle in it to vent the air, when gas heats up(any gas) it expands, and if it expands enough it could break the bottle. make sure the needle is in the air not down in the oil or the oil will spill out.
i brew my own and ive never had any problems i use 2% BA sometimes slightly higher and of course i boil it when heating everything before being filtered.

if you want after its all said and done stick the bottles(vented w a needle) in the oven at about 230 degrees for like 20 mins.

if your getting pain from injects its most likely that the person who made it used too much benzyl alcohol

Too much BB and or EO can do that too. Great post.

Yeah, if the needle goes down into the oil it will just siphon out the oil all over the place!

In your avatar it looks like you are brewing up something!

 

[jp2007]

when u heat the bottle u need to stick a needle in it to vent the air, when gas heats up(any gas) it expands, and if it expands enough it could break the bottle. make sure the needle is in the air not down in the oil or the oil will spill out.

i brew my own and ive never had any problems i use 2% BA sometimes slightly higher and of course i boil it when heating everything before being filtered.

if you want after its all said and done stick the bottles(vented w a needle) in the oven at about 230 degrees for like 20 mins.

if your getting pain from injects its most likely that the person who made it used too much benzyl alcohol

I have a friend who has a terrible reaction to BB.. His trt clinics compounding pharmacy makes their gear at 10% BA and 100% sesame oil and he responds perfect to it.

Crazy how it varies so much person to person

By the way I know those %'s are off. I just meant they use BA at 10% and the oil is purely sesame oil.

 

[maldorf]

I have a friend who has a terrible reaction to BB.. His trt clinics compounding pharmacy makes their gear at 10% BA and 100% sesame oil and he responds perfect to it.

Crazy how it varies so much person to person

By the way I know those %'s are off. I just meant they use BA at 10% and the oil is purely sesame oil.

Dang, 10% BA is a lot! Im surprised that it works for him but its good that he found a place that knew what it was doing. I never knew you could use that much BA and not have serious pain.

 

[Kaladryn]

-Any gear from a good source should be clean, if you need to filter it there is a problem imo.

-Most bacterial issues are from user error.

-Even if your gear is perfectly clean and has BA and BB, you can STILL easily contaminate the vial.

-Contaminated vials aren't a problem until days or weeks later, after the bacteria has had a chance to breed.

-BA doesn't keep bacteria from living or breeding, it just slows down how fast it can breed.

-A little bacteria is fine, you will ALWAYS inject a small amount of bacteria. The problem occurs when a little bacteria gets into the vial and starts to breed, then next time you inject there is a lot and you get an immune reaction.

-Not properly cleaning the top of your vial before inserting the syringe is the most common error.

-Remember, it is keeping that multidose vial clean that is most important.

 

[premedmonster]

Too much BB and or EO can do that too. Great post.

Yeah, if the needle goes down into the oil it will just siphon out the oil all over the place!

In your avatar it looks like you are brewing up something!

actually i was drunk at a friends apt raiding the kitchen haha

 

[myosaurus]

curious if baking and venting will work on naturally painful substance like primo. I had 200mg/ml primo that worked very well but it knotted me up for close to a week each time.

 

[Massive G]

You only need to stick the needle in to vent at the end when it is still hot....do not bake with a needle on -stainless or not...if a baked vial is sitting in the oven cooling with a needle in it..the vial will eventually suck back in the oven air when cooling through the needle.

There is ZERO regulation on what is on the black market so it is up to YOU to establish the quality once you get it.
It's silly to assume the source cares-every time a UG lab is busted the pictures show vegetable oil from the grocery store and non USP grade chemicals-the less work they do the $$ they make -most UG labs don't sterilize the vials or stoppers..and only use clarification filtration and BA as a bacterio-static safety net. since it's very difficult for bacteria to grow in oil in the presence of high BA concentrations you see very little problems based on actual bacterial abcesses-most have sterile abcesses and inflammation from high % of BA.
Take care of YOURSELF-since it is you practicing unregulated poly-pharmacy -keep your health in check.

You won't be able to remove the residues or endotoxins present but you will be able to reduce the pain inflammation and possible bacteria fragments once you process it by baking and filtering.

 

[Crazytall]

Not to hijack this thread but I have a relevant question. I recently recieved a 100ml container of TrenA from a reputable sponsor, but it was not in a sealed jar, but rather it was in a 100ml bottle of massage oil non sealed with a regular screw on cap you'd find on a bottle of lotion. The Tren is real and looks very potent. Should I be worried about contamination? I transfered most of it into smaller sealed jars I sterilized. So far I tried a very small shot in my delt and just the usual BA burn. Any cause for concern or will the BA kill any bacteria?

 

[maldorf]

Not to hijack this thread but I have a relevant question. I recently recieved a 100ml container of TrenA from a reputable sponsor, but it was not in a sealed jar, but rather it was in a 100ml bottle of massage oil non sealed with a regular screw on cap you'd find on a bottle of lotion. The Tren is real and looks very potent. Should I be worried about contamination? I transfered most of it into smaller sealed jars I sterilized. So far I tried a very small shot in my delt and just the usual BA burn. Any cause for concern or will the BA kill any bacteria?

Personally I would bake it in the oven for awhile and then filter it with a whatman into a sterile vial. You cant be too safe. That container it was in was in no way sterile and it could have bacteria in it I would think. It does not sound like a safe thing. I know they used to sell "stealth" stuff in sachels, probably a very similar situation. I remember reading quite a few guys having issues with that stuff, no telling what the reason was.