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DC any links to Your Newsletter? I love reading that sorta stuff...its amazing the knowledge that stuff written 20+yrs ago has
I put out Hardcore Muscle Newsletter in the early 90's.....my readership was who's who in the IFBB and high NPC level....I was talking about everything pretty much before anyone else dared to except for Duchaine....Noone had heard of Synthol before I introduced everyone to it, IGF-1, pro's and top am's using 3 grams of test (all 3 talked about are dead), I put it out there....Phillips (MM2000) asked me to write for him right before Duchaine got incarcerated if i remember right to fill that void....I refused because of the whole "Metrx is only available for Burn victims...but for this limited time we can sell to the public"....HMB feels like deca.....etc etc etc shenanigans...I felt he sold out from the guys who made him in the beginning.....I still have 100's of copies of every issue of Hardcore Muscle down in my garage but that freaking magazine brought me so much hardship....I dont like to even look at it. Back then when you talked about this stuff...you were a target! Virtually every single person back in the 90's who openly talked about this stuff became a target of LE. Duchaine told me himself they followed him around constantly watching where he went and who he talked to. Palumbo, Duchaine, Sarcev, Phillips, Brown, myself....all were targets of LE because of our guts to write about this stuff. I know this for a fact because I had a LE friend arguing on my behalf on a phone call to said people...after I was arrested back in the 90's....and the words out of the DOJ's mouth in response from the arresting officer was "he writes that f*&king magazine!"......so Im shocked to the core nowadays at what is being talked about openly....especially on facebook and videos. You guys saw me on this board many years ago write things and erase it about 15 minutes later MANY MANY TIMES.....that was because i thought about it and got freaked out that I was being too open......getting your life taken apart at one point in the past (destroyed pretty much) will make you like that.
When i saw that B Lloyd video and the incriminating evidence of it...I was floored...beyond floored. It is amazing to me that he hasnt been made an example of by LE. But maybe things have changed as to how they look at things.... I dont know....but I would never feel comfortable with some of the stuff him and Piana have openly admitted to and filmed....
the magazines are getting more bold but still dont go all in....they kind of dip a toe in and try to stay somewhat on the outside looking in...
Hmmm, how does one go about getting a copy of each issue of Harcore?
I guess i could make them available to everyone Dens...but I would rather not....there are 13 issues....and I even wrote up a 14th one that i didnt publish....because I thought i was going to continue onward with the magazine..... but then reality hit as the court case/lawyers (1995) absolutely wiped me out clean to the point i lost my car, business, and personal pride to be honest...devastating....and it came directly from the magazine (the guy who set me up came thru that magazine, and the DOJ had acquired and looked at the magazine and was not happy about it)...so i would rather just let sleeping dogs lie in this situation....Im kind of superstitious like that.
before muscle and Fitness was Muscle Builder and Power...Pete Gymkowski had a column where he answered drug questions say around 1979 or so
Man I would love to read that. I guess they would speak of Test, dbol, and speed...What else was available in 1979?
I put out Hardcore Muscle Newsletter in the early 90's.....my readership was who's who in the IFBB and high NPC level....I was talking about everything pretty much before anyone else dared to except for Duchaine....Noone had heard of Synthol before I introduced everyone to it, IGF-1, pro's and top am's using 3 grams of test (all 3 talked about are dead), I put it out there....Phillips (MM2000) asked me to write for him right before Duchaine got incarcerated if i remember right to fill that void....I refused because of the whole "Metrx is only available for Burn victims...but for this limited time we can sell to the public"....HMB feels like deca.....etc etc etc shenanigans...I felt he sold out from the guys who made him in the beginning.....I still have 100's of copies of every issue of Hardcore Muscle down in my garage but that freaking magazine brought me so much hardship....I dont like to even look at it. Back then when you talked about this stuff...you were a target! Virtually every single person back in the 90's who openly talked about this stuff became a target of LE. Duchaine told me himself they followed him around constantly watching where he went and who he talked to. Palumbo, Duchaine, Sarcev, Phillips, Brown, myself....all were targets of LE because of our guts to write about this stuff. I know this for a fact because I had a LE friend arguing on my behalf on a phone call to said people...after I was arrested back in the 90's....and the words out of the DOJ's mouth in response from the arresting officer was "he writes that f*&king magazine!"......so Im shocked to the core nowadays at what is being talked about openly....especially on facebook and videos. You guys saw me on this board many years ago write things and erase it about 15 minutes later MANY MANY TIMES.....that was because i thought about it and got freaked out that I was being too open......getting your life taken apart at one point in the past (destroyed pretty much) will make you like that.
When i saw that B Lloyd video and the incriminating evidence of it...I was floored...beyond floored. It is amazing to me that he hasnt been made an example of by LE. But maybe things have changed as to how they look at things.... I dont know....but I would never feel comfortable with some of the stuff him and Piana have openly admitted to and filmed....
the magazines are getting more bold but still dont go all in....they kind of dip a toe in and try to stay somewhat on the outside looking in...
How odd. I was actually just thinking about this a few hours ago as I was driving home--specifically about how you were locked up in the 90's and lost everything--then came back to make millions with True Protein and attain even greater respect (worldwide) than you had before.
There are not many people like this--who can take that kind of a blow and then come back kicking ass. These are inherent characteristics that make a person who they are, and while I believe they can be learned to a degree, I think that, for the most part, they are inborn--just who we are (or aren't).
This is not an ass-kisser post. My point in posting it is because I was asking myself if I would have the strength and fortitude to come back swinging if something like that ever happened to me. It's a hard question to answer...because most people never do.
What the hell man, last time I looked at MD like 5 years ago half the magazine was drug info. And it had been going on for years.
Flex had detailed hormone/juicing articles for a while in the mid-late 90s when MD was pro-drug as well. I think it was a response to Muscle Media starting the drug talk. Then MD went "natural" along with MM2K and Flex followed. So it's been back and forth a few times.
Man, what a joke all natural MD was. No naturals, just some crappy bodybuilders lol
a)bold above...LOL I would not say millions. I do ok but honestly I feel I worked so hard to get here that I deserve to be where I am. The business does very well but the two owners (one being myself) have put the money back into the business constantly and expanded it (42 employees, equipment, building, alot of money in the programming part of things, a grip of money on testing)....I think the supplement industry is so very hard right now....the only 2 companies I have seen skyrocket in the last few years both have taken some very very big falls.....they painted this big facade of leased cars and living large on leveraged money (I never quite understood that marketing scheme of showing off to your customers how much you make off of them....anyone who does that suffers a very very unhappy ending)....its just like all these companies who do a "50% off sale!"....50% off? So you are saying you make so much money on the product you sell that you can 1/2 the price and still make money? In fact anyone reading this should take it to the bank...that if you see a company coming up on Black Friday who gives you a 50% off sale or more on something....they are making BANK on you normally.
b) Trust me Mike i went into a deep deep depression after that happened back in 96. I had talked to that guy for hours when he had girlfriend problems and needed to get thru it...he also had been over to my house for dinner. I got him mentioned in Muscle Media2000 on a book he sold. I made an intro for him to Duchaine to sell the book. And he (the guy I used to get small personal use stuff off of) repays me by setting me up on a silver platter to the DOJ. Unknown to me is that he had gotten busted and without hesitation decided to play tag...didnt matter who it was...just that he got out of it. Taped all phone calls, everything....went about it in a way that was beyond evil....... Took me a long time to come out of that hole. After all the lawyer bills, bail, fees, and then serving my punishment.....I remember credit absolutely ruined, car repo-ed, life destroyed as I knew it with multiple felonies/3 years supervised probation/drug testing and 64 dollars to my name. Any kind of security clearance I could use with my degree...shot to hell. I started to come out of my funk and then they (about 9 of them) came to my door at 6am in the morning all in black gear with guns drawn..and handcuffed me to the floor in my underwear and turned my apartment upside down with a probation search. Took me a long time to get back on my feet/trusted virtually noone/....there were some long phone calls with my mother that got me thru some bad bad days...til this day I dont trust many people, and I get shook up if anyone knocks on my door early in the morning. As cheesy as it sounds...with time i started getting pissed at the whole thing...because I felt like a good guy who had been terribly wronged by someone....and I used to listen to a couple songs that were about "making a comeback" and " dont let anyone keep you down"...and i just got this "i'll freaking show you I can turn this around!" attitude about the whole thing....and kept going forward.......