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Movie-300- opens today

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Me and the fiance are going to see this tonight.Lucky for me she loves these types of flicks.I know there was some guys talking about this flick on here.Anyone else going to see it? Looks fucking amazing,and will probably make me want to go to the gym and hit the weights right after we leave the theater,haha.....
 
For sure!! I am going to wait until I see Strongmind again and take her to go see it as she wants to go too.....(Lucky for me too! lol)

I watched the making of the movie on HBO and i can't wait!
 
Watch The History Channel, they give you an more accurate and real account of "300". I was pretty incredible. The previews alone makes you want to be a Spartan!! I have the comics. Glad I bought them when I did. Now they are going to be hard to find and when you do, they are going to jack the price up.

The greatest and most heroic warriors ever!! LONG LIVE THE SPARTANS!!!
 
I would like to see an actual historically accurate story of the 300 soldiers that defended the city of Sparta. Remember this isn't mythology, this is history.

When they make this sci-fi version, it will keep the real thing from being made.
 
I can't wait to see this movie. The wife and I are gonna go on Monday afternoon b/c we both hate crowded movie's, so that should be perfect. Cant wait for this.
 
Looking forward to seeing this...Looks like it's going to be great movie!!!
 
the history channel did an actual account of the battle of thermopoly which is where 300 takes place it was really good
 
Friend of mine and his daughter just seen it today. Great movie!
was his words.
 
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|---[\\\\]>------------- 5 out of 5 stars is what ive read. everyone says that the movie is even bigger than all the hype so far. i have been waiting for this one a long long time...along with Transformers and the new Die Hard
 
Now all I have to do is convince my girl to go with me tonight...She's not really into it but I sure as hell am...I don't care, I'll go by myself:eek:
 
This is for you Golgo13. Gives you insight to the mind of the great one Frank Miller.

A Graphic Novel, story and art by Frank Miller (coloring by Lynn Varley), in five volumes (pub. May-Sept. 1998); Dark Horse Comics, Milwaukie, Oregon. $2.95/$3.95 per issue.

300 is only one of a tiny, tiny handful of illustrated treatments of the Thermopylae epic of 480 B.C., when the stand of King Leonidas and his bodyguard of 300 picked Spartans inspired all Greece and succeeding generations of freedom lovers. (The comic book adaptation of the movie The 300 Spartans, published as Lion of Sparta in 1963, is the only other full-length comic I know of, and it is uninspired hackwork.) One wants to see it succeed, if only to encourage more historically based comics in a field dominated by supermen and mutants and space opera. But 300 is a mixed bag, and I expect reactions will vary, even within comics fandom (where Miller, creator of the "Batman: The Dark Knight" concept and other innovative works, is something akin to a demigod).

This new adult comic book tale seems to draw inspiration from several contemporary sources. There are echoes of Louis Glanzman's vigorous and graphic paintings on ancient battles (including Thermopylae) for National Geographic magazine. Other pictorial references indicate that Miller has studied John Warry's Warfare in the Classical World, even if he felt no obligation to conform to historical combat dress. And most of all, The 300 Spartans, which Miller himself cites as a major influence, has been mined for many of this comic's most dramatic scenes.

The Good:
Art: Miller's layouts are bold and fluid, and as an artist he is an original in a medium that caters to "house styles" and imitators. The series has movement and verve and has not been shaped by corporate concerns, mainstream blandness, or licensing tie-ins. The graphic design overall is strong yet spare, as befits the topic. Leonidas looks like he was based on Sean Connery.

Story:
Miller has one of history's most dramatic and decisive conflicts to work with, the clash of the comparatively free Greek city-states against the autocracy of the Persian Empire. The battle of Thermopylae, the Alamo of Greece, is inherently gripping, and Miller has tried to convey the desperate nature of the fighting and the heroism and self-sacrifice of Leonidas and his warriors.

Historical Accuracy:
Some attention has been paid to "getting it right." The Spartans are distinguished by their red cloaks and long hair (even to the point of being shown brushing it out before battle, as described by the historian Herodotus, bringing to mind Housman's poem about how "the Spartans, on the sea-wet rock / sat, and combed their hair"). Some of the Persian army is depicted in accurate campaign dress. The Spartan characters are rather laconic in speech (as opposed to the usual superhero bombast), and many of the famous Spartan aphorisms are worked into the dialogue.


Now, the Bad:
Art: Miller's style will not appeal to everyone. It lacks the clean preciseness of a Hal Foster or John Severin, to name only two comic artists known for their historical work. It is deliberately crude and unpolished in some respects, the coloring often drab and dark. As with most "adult-oriented" graphic novels, 300 is full of gruesome, even sadistic violence (which is always disturbing to those of us brought up on Archie, the Flash, Jimmy Olsen, and sanitized war comics).

Story:
Miller does not provide a completely adequate background for the events of the series. Granted this is not an educational comic; but I feel some readers will be thoroughly confused as to who's fighting who, why, and where. The end of it all, on the field of Plataea a year after Thermopylae, may be unclear to many, and seems unnecessarily abrupt. Also, Miller's fictionalized episodes are not convincing (for example, a running gag between an awkward Spartan nicknamed "Stumblios" is tedious and the pun (pidgin Greek?) couldn't really work. And there are scenes that are cartoonishly over-the-top, even in a field not known for subtlety. (Leonidas' battle with a wolf, his death struggle with the Persian horde, his showdown with the ephors, and the Spartans' reception of the Persian ambassador.)

Historical Accuracy:
Again, this isn't something designed to be used in school, but with so much done right, it's a shame an equal number of things are done so poorly, either for artistic license or some other reason. The Spartan hoplites are depicted in either the "heroic nude" or wearing something very much like thong underpants, which is laughable. Why do their helmets (except Leonidas') lack crests? Did they forget them at home, with their body armor and tunics? The ephors are shown like a band of evil Emperors from STAR WARS, leprous and perverted. Their absolute corruption and malevolence must be designed to make Leonidas shine all the brighter. The traitor Ephialtes, the Judas of Thermopylae, has been rewritten into a diseased, hunchbacked, half-breed in whom rejection by Leonidas instills a crazed desire for vengeance. (This scene doesn't hold water: the king turns Ephialtes away because he isn't able to hold a shield in the phalanx, but there's no reason this Ephialtes couldn't have served capably as a skirmisher, armor-bearer, messenger, waterboy, hair stylist (ha), or whatever.) The Immortals, Great King Xerxes' crack troops, are drawn heavily stylized, with pitch black cowls, black shields, and armored facemasks, more like Halloween goblins than the Persian elite. The Persian host did NOT include elephants, alas, despite what is shown in volume five. Xerxes himself is perhaps the greatest departure from reality. Rather than an arrogant Achaemenid prince, he is drawn as a towering, body-pierced, Nubian smooth-talker. Most disconcerting.

To Sum Up:
The series seems to be popular. A local comic/game specialty shop constantly reorders backissues to keep up with demand. You just can't keep a good story about last stands and bloody come-uppances down. Judging by readers' comments in the letters column, 300 is reaching many people who have never read about the Spartans or Thermopylae before. Like the film The 300 Spartans, these comics may fire imaginations for a new generation of Philakones. This can only be a Good Thing. Kudos to Frank Miller and company for daring to "reach the stars with their spears."
 
Battle of Thermopylae

Hey fellas
Im going tomorrow - im a bit of a geek when it comes to ancient history and stuff - ive been waiting for this movie for a while
Here is an excellent piece about the battle of Thermopylae and the movie

"The phrase “300 Spartans” evokes not only the ancient battle of Thermopylae, but also the larger idea of fighting for freedom against all odds — a notion subsequently to be enshrined through some 2500 years of Western civilization.

Even today we remember the power of the Spartans’ defiance. “Come and take them,” they tell the Persian emissaries who demand their arms. “Then we will fight in the shade,” the Spartans boast when warned that the horde of Persian arrows will soon blot out the very sunlight. “Go tell the Spartans that here we lie obedient to their commands” the tombstone of their dead reads.

In 480, an enormous force of more than a quarter-million Persians under their King Xerxes invaded Greece, both to enslave the free city-states, and to avenge the Persian defeat a decade earlier at Marathon. The huge force of ships and soldiers proved unstoppable on its way west and southward until it reached the narrow pass at Thermopylae (“The Warm Gates”) in northern Greece. There a collection of 7,000 Greeks had blocked the way. They hoped to stop Xerxes’ horde outright — or at least allow enough time for their fellow countrymen to their rear to mobilize a sufficient defense of the homeland.

Among the many Greek contingents was a special elite force of 300 Spartans under their King Leonidas — a spearhead that offered the other Greeks at Thermopylae some promise that they could still bar the advance of the vastly superior invader. And that hope proved real for two days of hard fighting. The vastly outnumbered, but heavily-armed Greek infantrymen in their phalanx — taking advantage of the narrow terrain and their massed tactics — savagely beat back wave after wave of advancing Persian foot soldiers and cavalry."

Read it all here **broken link removed**
 
KIDMUSCLE said:
Hey fellas
Im going tomorrow - im a bit of a geek when it comes to ancient history and stuff - ive been waiting for this movie for a while
Here is an excellent piece about the battle of Thermopylae and the movie

"The phrase “300 Spartans” evokes not only the ancient battle of Thermopylae, but also the larger idea of fighting for freedom against all odds — a notion subsequently to be enshrined through some 2500 years of Western civilization.

Even today we remember the power of the Spartans’ defiance. “Come and take them,” they tell the Persian emissaries who demand their arms. “Then we will fight in the shade,” the Spartans boast when warned that the horde of Persian arrows will soon blot out the very sunlight. “Go tell the Spartans that here we lie obedient to their commands” the tombstone of their dead reads.

In 480, an enormous force of more than a quarter-million Persians under their King Xerxes invaded Greece, both to enslave the free city-states, and to avenge the Persian defeat a decade earlier at Marathon. The huge force of ships and soldiers proved unstoppable on its way west and southward until it reached the narrow pass at Thermopylae (“The Warm Gates”) in northern Greece. There a collection of 7,000 Greeks had blocked the way. They hoped to stop Xerxes’ horde outright — or at least allow enough time for their fellow countrymen to their rear to mobilize a sufficient defense of the homeland.

Among the many Greek contingents was a special elite force of 300 Spartans under their King Leonidas — a spearhead that offered the other Greeks at Thermopylae some promise that they could still bar the advance of the vastly superior invader. And that hope proved real for two days of hard fighting. The vastly outnumbered, but heavily-armed Greek infantrymen in their phalanx — taking advantage of the narrow terrain and their massed tactics — savagely beat back wave after wave of advancing Persian foot soldiers and cavalry."

Read it all here **broken link removed**[/QUOTEMakes You feel good after reading that does it not? I know I do. Makes me wish I could time travel to that battle of 300 mere mortals against an onslaught of 1000's..That is mind blinding!!
 
I REALLY WANT TO SEE IT!

LUCKILY FOR ME....SATAN DOES TOO. SHE LOVES THE UFC, BIG DUDES AND COOL MOVIES.

I GUESS I SHOULDN'T COMPLAIN!;)
 
I cannot wait to see this movie...Arguably one of the most important battles symbolically in all of written history!
 
Hiramabiff said:
This is for you Golgo13. Gives you insight to the mind of the great one Frank Miller.

... Edited for page space courtesy

Interesting. I will see it.
 
seeing it tommorow morn cant fucking wait.
 
I saw it pre-screening with the critics on Tuesday, and I have to say, it might be the best movie I have ever seen. The entire time I either had a huge smile on my face or my mouth hung wide open. It was truely mindblowing.
 
I saw it today and it was one of the best movies I have ever seen. The fighting scenes are incredible and you just feel pumped up the whole movie. Definately see this movie.
 

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