MY Doc and Gear

[KillerStack]

What do you expect the doc to say? Yes, it's perfectly healthy to self administer steroids?

I would definitely agree that docs are much smarter than the average meathead, and guys (like me) on this board. They may not have researched athletic steroid use specifically but if they decided to do it they would understand the subject on a different level than us due to their background and knowledge of the body. Most on this board (and certainly me) really know very little in comparison.

You can't really blame the doc for not telling you to go ahead and use illegal steroids. And if he decided to get involved in helping you dope he would be breaking the law.

 

[thebrick]

What do you expect the doc to say? Yes, it's perfectly healthy to self administer steroids?

I would definitely agree that docs are much smarter than the average meathead, and guys (like me) on this board. They may not have researched athletic steroid use specifically but if they decided to do it they would understand the subject on a different level than us due to their background and knowledge of the body. Most on this board (and certainly me) really know very little in comparison.

You can't really blame the doc for not telling you to go ahead and use illegal steroids. And if he decided to get involved in helping you dope he would be breaking the law.

Yep! The law is the law. Like it or not. The doctor didn't legislate it. Lawmakers did. Bottom line, he doesn't care if you like it or not. Do you really think a doctor is going to risk losing his medical license and forfeit his career because you want it without a valid medical reason?

 

[Massive G]

smarter than meatheads for sure
what is the definition of a meathead?

however most of us posting on this board are well above that level
So far ive met one doctor who i was able to have an intelligent discussion with regarding use of male hormones for both life enhancement and performance enhancement in sports
out of many who thought that their status made it unnecessary to do any research in the field

So a juice head which I see many on this board including myself is smarter than a medical doctor because they outline a cycle and discuss half lives and don't exaggerate side effects?

I don't know too many people on this board that went through 8 years plus of hell to get an MD, do rotations at the hospital for days on end to be initiated.


Don't blame the docs steroids weren't invented for and never have been for athletic use, in fact the first product insert I saw said "warning steroids don't enhance athletic ability"...?

Doctors are taught what they are needed-how to interpret scans, blood profiles and administer drugs among many other things.

Without getting long winded I have been through the ropes with docs but I also understand their position when it comes to administering AAS for cosmetic or athletic enhancement.

The short term side effects are certainly exaggerated-but the long term use of underground poly pharmacy isn't.

Yes we OWN the docs in steroid knowledge. Big deal. Cycling steroids and GH and insulin and any other ergogenic compounds are the most elementary sciences in the world.

 

[j8282]

Thinks for the inputs. I wasnt asking for my docs permission but rather his opinion. My wife does not agree with my habit so I thought getting her more involved with what I do would help us communicate better. She had concerns with health and fertility thats why we asked the doc. My blood work always comes back excellent.

 

[vadim_b1]

So a juice head which I see many on this board including myself is smarter than a medical doctor because they outline a cycle and discuss half lives and don't exaggerate side effects?

I don't know too many people on this board that went through 8 years plus of hell to get an MD, do rotations at the hospital for days on end to be initiated.


Don't blame the docs steroids weren't invented for and never have been for athletic use, in fact the first product insert I saw said "warning steroids don't enhance athletic ability"...?

Doctors are taught what they are needed-how to interpret scans, blood profiles and administer drugs among many other things.

Without getting long winded I have been through the ropes with docs but I also understand their position when it comes to administering AAS for cosmetic or athletic enhancement.

The short term side effects are certainly exaggerated-but the long term use of underground poly pharmacy isn't.

Yes we OWN the docs in steroid knowledge. Big deal. Cycling steroids and GH and insulin and any other ergogenic compounds are the most elementary sciences in the world.

I told you on my experiences with doctors, yours may have been different

its not only steroids that doctors are ignorant on, a lot of them are completely clueless on nutrition and exercise as well, and their effects on certain 20 and 21st century ailments. Havent you seen doctors who will prescribe you statins and antidepressants almost immediately without even trying to solve the problem in other less harsh ways?
Ive seen it plenty of times

and why do you assume people on here are mostly uneducated?
A lot of us have degrees as well and many are involved in relevant fields as well such as pharmacology, pharmacy and biochemistry

and i totally disagree on the point of designing cycles being elementary
maybe if you approach it from the broscientific view
But an intelligent cycle layout for maximal performance enhancement requires in depth knowledge of human physiology and endocrine system.