my latest DNP cycle (thanks CONCILIATOR for all your help)

[james caan]

Im obviously not any sort of expert on DNP..but i can post honestly about my last exp with it. Going back about a year (or longer), i ran my 1st cycle..and what i noticed was going up as much as 500mg, i felt nothing much than a warmer feeling, shortness of breath, and hypo when i went to long with out carbs. But, either than that (and keep in mind, they were mild at most) i felt none, or exp. none of the major sides people post about I.E yellowing of their semen, severe night sweats, lethargy, etc. Now in no way am i saying that my DNP was bunk, or under dosed, as the guy i went/go to is top notch (one of the best DNP out there). But i definitely felt that i was one of the unlucky few, with a very high tolerance for it. So, fast forward to the present time, and i decided to try DNP again. I spoke with conciliator, and after much planing, and thinking i decided to try something different. What i decided to do was simple, a low dose DNP/ECA cycle, with a 7 on, 7 off schedule. Let me tell you, this was the best (for me at least) way to use DNP..and will be the only way i will ever use it again. At 200mg, i felt like i did when i used 500mg, every single week i used it. But even more, my sides seemed more intense (which i know is not what the avg user wants) but when you think you'll need 600mg + to feel anything, trust me i was more than happy. My sweating, the color of my semen, my breathing, etc..all where at the level one would expect with 500mg +, yet i was feeling this at 200mg. after i had one week left on my cycle, i decided to go to 300mg, and see how that went. Well 300mg for me was damn near unbearable!!! I had my a/c at 64-62 deg. yet still i had to change my undershirts 2-3 times a day from the sweating. My eyes started getting a slight hint of yellow, and even walking to check the mail box seemed impossible. Eating high carb meals was torture, i would feel like some one was walking around with a blow dryer behind my neck. I cant explain (i hope conciliator chimes in) why this happened, and why i seem all of the sudden to have such a low tolerance for DNP. I would assume that DNP would take much longer than a week to clear out, so im not even sure why doing it this way worked so well for me...but it was completely night, and day. Ill be off for a while, but im very interested to see if this was just some fluke, or if there is really something to it! CJ

 

[Phidias]

So basically you're telling us you're happy cause u eventually found the correct way to use dnp so that it made u miserable and absolutely unproductive for the time u were on it? Interesting...

Did u get any results from it at least? I mean was all that suffering worthy in ur eyes?

 

[james caan]

yea i was more than happy...instead of taking a dosage that is completely not needed..i found an approach that worked well for me. as i stated in the post, i was happy because i thought i needed a much higher dosages, than i truly did, not because i got sides. we all have to decide what we are or are not satisfied with..for example im satisfied that i didn't make the mistake of using a high dosage, and you seem to be satisfied being a condescending, pompous prick!!! but thanks for posting up, i appreciate it! CJ

 

[Quad-smack]

So basically you're telling us you're happy cause u eventually found the correct way to use dnp so that it made u miserable and absolutely unproductive for the time u were on it? Interesting.

My thoughts exactly.

and you seem to be satisfied being a condescending, pompous prick!!! but thanks for posting up, i appreciate it! CJ

Nice that you resort to name calling when someone questions your logic. Very mature.

 

[bigfatandugly]

wow!

sounds great!

 

[james caan]

My thoughts exactly.



Nice that you resort to name calling when someone questions your logic. Very mature.

i guess it would be as mature as an individual always making rude, unwarranted, or down right egotistical sounding comments, every time some one else makes a post they dont agree with! but hey this is the site of the know it all's, so far be it for me to even post my exp. what i love is the bandwagon effect, i mean why would any one on here want to be original in their thinking. i posted about my exp, i asked for the advice of a person that despite knowing more about DNP, than all of you (i think im a guru, cause ive been on the boards for a very long time) "bros", never seems to attack any one for their exp, or even mistakes they made while on DNP. i didnt say i was happy i had sides, nor did i say i discovered the holy grail of DNP cycling. what i did post was simply an honest, exp..nothing more, nothing less! i asked why it would be that my tolerance seemed to have lowered, and if cycling it the way i did, could have been the cause of it.
but it would be too much to ask for, or expect for many of the "bros" on here to respect another mans post!!! but hey im the party that lacks the maturity around here...! btw, thank you all for posting. CJ

 

[HawaiiMuscle]

yea i was more than happy...instead of taking a dosage that is completely not needed..i found an approach that worked well for me. as i stated in the post, i was happy because i thought i needed a much higher dosages, than i truly did, not because i got sides. we all have to decide what we are or are not satisfied with..for example im satisfied that i didn't make the mistake of using a high dosage, and you seem to be satisfied being a condescending, pompous prick!!! but thanks for posting up, i appreciate it! CJ

First off, not taking sides but...

You probably dont know this, but Phidias is one of the coolest, nicest guys you will meet or read post from on the board. Something else you may not be aware of, he lost a really close friend to dnp, so I can see why he reacted the way he did.

 

[james caan]

First off, not taking sides but...

You probably dont know this, but Phidias is one of the coolest, nicest guys you will meet or read post from on the board. Something else you may not be aware of, he lost a really close friend to dnp, so I can see why he reacted the way he did.

thats a very unfortunate thing to have happened..but he didnt come at me with any kind of respect at all. im sorry that he lost a friend, but i didnt post up anything that would be considered dangerous or even bad advice. i stated what my exp was, and asked for advice..i thought that this was part of being on the boards, to discuss ones personal exp's, and to ask for advice/help. my post wasnt about high dosed blitz cycles, that many do/advocate, so i dont get why im being attacked!!! CJ

 

[Phidias]

First off, not taking sides but...

You probably dont know this, but Phidias is one of the coolest, nicest guys you will meet or read post from on the board. Something else you may not be aware of, he lost a really close friend to dnp, so I can see why he reacted the way he did.

Thank you, HawaiiMuscle.

 

[Phidias]

thats a very unfortunate thing to have happened..but he didnt come at me with any kind of respect at all. im sorry that he lost a friend, but i didnt post up anything that would be considered dangerous or even bad advice. i stated what my exp was, and asked for advice..i thought that this was part of being on the boards, to discuss ones personal exp's, and to ask for advice/help. my post wasnt about high dosed blitz cycles, that many do/advocate, so i dont get why im being attacked!!! CJ

Ok, sorry if i came across rude and offended you... please accept my apologies.

But to be honest, i did it on purpose to TRY and make u realize how I CAN'T SEE THE LOGIC IN YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS.

I mean why would anyone feel satisfied to suffer from all of dnp's nasty sides?!?! You admit it, life was hell on it: night sweats, lethargy, etc... we all know them... that stuff will turn u into a walking zombie. I know it first hand (my friend of course, as Hawaii mentioned - may she RIP ), but also coz I used it myself at VERY high doses... which was the MOST AWFUL EXPERIENCE of my whole life, and I mean it.

Basically, what i'm trying to say, is that i don't see how can someone enjoy to feel like he's at death's doors!!!

When with just a little more patience and dedication on the treadmill and in the kitchen he'll obtain the same results WHILE FEELING GREAT (that's if u diet down smartly of course).

See, it's not a matter of being "a guru cause i'm on the board for a very long time" (i agree 100% with u, it has never been relevant of a person's knowledge... and Conciliator has MUCH MUCH MORE than me on dnp's mechanisms of actions), but more a huge concern for ur health, talking for experience of the sides and again how miserable I was on this drug... u greatly misunderstood my post.

Good luck anyways in whathever path u choose to take.

 

[BigChef]

Phidias is one of the nicest caring guy on this board and always willing to help others. I guess he was questioning about your experience with DNP. He (Phidias) never come across a pompous prick but he is truly a caring guy and very knowledgeable.
Your experience with DNP is what Phidias was concern about and your logic but whatever works for you. Next time you misunderstood someone else post, best to take it to private message not out in the open.

 

[Silencer]

Did u get any results from it at least? I mean was all that suffering worthy in ur eyes?

As people who know me know, I'm no fan of DNP. But this sentence I quoted by Phidias is what I believe was his main point. Whatever side effects happened doesn't convey nearly as much information like the results you got would. Did you lose 5lb more fat in that time? Did you keep more LBM at 200 with ECA and 7on7off than running 600? Did you have to diet less timewise? See what Phidias was driving at?

It's similar to posting that when I used tren at 30mgEOD, I didn't get irritated, but at 100mgED, I got covered in acne and kicked my dog daily... Yes, aggression and acne are an indirect measure of dosage, but talking about how much more strength you gained on your major lifts and how much LBM you gained would probably be more useful than saying you got more acne and aggression...

 

[Phidias]

As people who know me know, I'm no fan of DNP. But this sentence I quoted by Phidias is what I believe was his main point. Whatever side effects happened doesn't convey nearly as much information like the results you got would. Did you lose 5lb more fat in that time? Did you keep more LBM at 200 with ECA and 7on7off than running 600? Did you have to diet less timewise? See what Phidias was driving at?

It's similar to posting that when I used tren at 30mgEOD, I didn't get irritated, but at 100mgED, I got covered in acne and kicked my dog daily... Yes, aggression and acne are an indirect measure of dosage, but talking about how much more strength you gained on your major lifts and how much LBM you gained would probably be more useful than saying you got more acne and aggression...

I should have worded my post like Silencer's, cause that was PRECISELY the meaning I was trying to convey! I'm glad I'm not the only one understanding myself! Lol!

Big Chef, thanks for ur kind words, mate! But please let's not turn this into a "Phidias is a nice guy" thread... definitely not needed as I took no offense in James' reply. He just fought back cos he thought he was being attacked. I'd have done the same.

 

[tenny]

I should have worded my post like Silencer's, cause that was PRECISELY the meaning I was trying to convey! I'm glad I'm not the only one understanding myself! Lol!

Big Chef, thanks for ur kind words, mate! But please let's not turn this into a "Phidias is a nice guy" thread... definitely not needed as I took no offense in James' reply. He just fought back cos he thought he was being attacked. I'd have done the same.

wow.....if i had said what i was going to say
i would have been a REAL douche bag!!!!



well handled my friend

 

[Phidias]

wow.....if i had said what i was going to say
i would have been a REAL douche bag!!!!



well handled my friend

I think I was born with the gene of diplomacy...

 

[smokeybair]

Im obviously not any sort of expert on DNP..but i can post honestly about my last exp with it. Going back about a year (or longer), i ran my 1st cycle..and what i noticed was going up as much as 500mg, i felt nothing much than a warmer feeling, shortness of breath, and hypo when i went to long with out carbs. But, either than that (and keep in mind, they were mild at most) i felt none, or exp. none of the major sides people post about I.E yellowing of their semen, severe night sweats, lethargy, etc. Now in no way am i saying that my DNP was bunk, or under dosed, as the guy i went/go to is top notch (one of the best DNP out there). But i definitely felt that i was one of the unlucky few, with a very high tolerance for it. So, fast forward to the present time, and i decided to try DNP again. I spoke with conciliator, and after much planing, and thinking i decided to try something different. What i decided to do was simple, a low dose DNP/ECA cycle, with a 7 on, 7 off schedule. Let me tell you, this was the best (for me at least) way to use DNP..and will be the only way i will ever use it again. At 200mg, i felt like i did when i used 500mg, every single week i used it. But even more, my sides seemed more intense (which i know is not what the avg user wants) but when you think you'll need 600mg + to feel anything, trust me i was more than happy. My sweating, the color of my semen, my breathing, etc..all where at the level one would expect with 500mg +, yet i was feeling this at 200mg. after i had one week left on my cycle, i decided to go to 300mg, and see how that went. Well 300mg for me was damn near unbearable!!! I had my a/c at 64-62 deg. yet still i had to change my undershirts 2-3 times a day from the sweating. My eyes started getting a slight hint of yellow, and even walking to check the mail box seemed impossible. Eating high carb meals was torture, i would feel like some one was walking around with a blow dryer behind my neck. I cant explain (i hope conciliator chimes in) why this happened, and why i seem all of the sudden to have such a low tolerance for DNP. I would assume that DNP would take much longer than a week to clear out, so im not even sure why doing it this way worked so well for me...but it was completely night, and day. Ill be off for a while, but im very interested to see if this was just some fluke, or if there is really something to it! CJ

so, just to clarify, you used 200mg dnp and eca the same week and then took one week off and repeated? if so how many on off cycles did you do?

 

[james caan]

so, just to clarify, you used 200mg dnp and eca the same week and then took one week off and repeated? if so how many on off cycles did you do?

it was a total of 6 weeks...one week on, one week off. dnp/eca..at 200mg/50mg...weeks off i continued with my vitamins, and diet of course, but nothing else. CJ

 

[james caan]

and to clarify a few things...my post wasnt in any way trying to celebrate my sides...i was happy that i didnt make the huge mistake many seem to make, when they start believing that they need very high dosages of dnp. at my highest i went to 300mg for one week..i took a weekly break after each "on" week, and made sure to keep my temp. readings, water intake, and antiox. at their proper levels. im far from a newbee, ive been on the boards for a lot longer than most, and ive been using aas, diet aids, slin, etc...for a very long time. i apologize if my post wasnt as clear as i wanted it to be.

what i should of posted..i used dnp in a 7 on, 7 off cycle...which turned out to be very effective...but for some odd reason, my tolerance for dnp seemed to have lowered from my previous dnp use. im very happy with the results, as i did not need the higher dosage i used before, but on the flip side...my sides were much more intense. so what im asking...is it common for ones tolerance to lower...or would it be more related to how i cycled the dnp.

i hold no ill feelings towards any one on this board, i just think (not saying any one in particular) people have a tendency to jump all over, or attack others posts, when they either misunderstand the post, or when the author didnt express their point clearly enough. i honestly think, in relation to what types of dnp cycles some use...mine seemed very mild. again i will never use high dosages, which is some thing i wish more would say!! thanks again CJ

 

[epoxy]

I'm on some Syntrop, but I think it's underdosed because I had to go all the way up to 800mg of their stuff to get 24/7 sweats. My personal experience with DNP is that I honestly have not felt any of the lethargy associated with it. I've read countless logs where users have stated they were basically bedridden on high doses but I'm still hitting my cardio 3x a week for 30 minutes and doing about 80% of my normal weight in the gym. I know it's not bunk because like I said, I sweat 24/7, my piss is always dark yellow even though I drink 1.5 gallons of water a day, the tint of my sweat is yellow, eating simple carbs makes me sweat even worse for hours on end, I wake up multiple times during the night wet, AND i'm also on Tren at the same time so it's even worse. But I guess it's basically "to each his own", because I have not felt unable to do anything physically whatsoever. I'm moreso embarassed to go out in public because I look like a sweaty freakshow especially in the summer season. By the time I'm done on the treadmill I probably look similar to Moses after all of those years in the desert. DNP will differ from person to person, thats the solid truth. The point is, start off small, see what you can handle, don't try to be a tough guy and kill yourself with the stuff because it's possible. It's pretty good at burning fat, and I am impressed, but I don't see it as the end-all-miracle drug. I could have done the same thing without a diet aid and it would have been A LOT easier on my body and my self esteem. Cant even think about throwin a beer or two back for multiple reasons. One, I'm doing enough damage to my liver already, and 2, I'd be a sweaty mess after one Bud Light.