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Greetings everyone,
After doing a search on the board for PGCL, there's a wonderfully explained experience of this new drug written by Allbeef's first hand experience, which he does a great job of answering alot of questions someone might be having if they are contemplating using this relatively new "wonder" drug. But if you continue reading other posts, you'll find that his experience is relatively the only experience we can really go by if one was curious about cycling this drug. So with that said I decided to go ahead and post my experience and result with PGCL.
A little about me....
I am new to this board and I have been training for about a year and a half ( I know it's not very long) some might raise the eyebrow and wonder "Why would he want to use PGCL and he's only been training for such a short time?"
Well, at the beginning of 2006, I was a disaster....I was a fat slob of a man, I was 5 ft. 11" and weighed in at 240 lbs. I was 60 lbs overweight and it was all fat, no muscle at all. on top of that I smoked cigarettes and drank alcohol, and basically was a living trash can when it came to food.... devouring anything in my way as long as it tasted good. My health was in trouble, my body felt the aches and my lungs would get winded from the slightest bit of exercise.
I remember right before new years I went with my six year old son to the park by my house and in this park they had a jungle gym which was my sons favorite thing to play with in the whole area. I mean when we pulled up he would run straight to that and play on it for hours, completely ignoring any other thing at this park to play with. Well it was a quiet day and we were the only ones there at the time and he wanted me to climb up the jungle gym and play with him. Reluctantly, I climbed my fat ass slowly and surely around this monstrosity they called a jungle gym and after about 3 minutes of this, I had enough. I climbed down, wore out and told my son daddy's had enough. It looked like I killed his dog or something. I saw him disappointed that he didn't have anyone to play with. I felt terrible that I was in such bad shape that I couldn't even keep up with my own son for more than five minutes, and I felt embarrassed of myself too.
I decided to change my lifestyle at that point. New years came, it was a new year, a new way of life. I started an exercise routine, stopped smoking and drinking, changed my eating habits. It was hell at first, I could barley keep a fast walk around my neighborhood block. but a fast walk turned to a jog, a jog turned into a run, a block turned into 2, then 1/2 mile, then a mile....2 miles....3 miles....five miles.
Now here I am 65 lbs. lighter. I still have miles to go and mountains to climb to be on a level as some of you on this forum find yourself but I'm beginning the journey!
Anyway before the the cycle began I found myself at a plateau...it seemed like whatever I did, I couldn't drop my last 15 lbs, so after reading about PGCL I decided to try it out.
My stats before:
30 years old/ male
190 lbs, roughly 18% body fat
only steroid experience was a clenbuterol cycle that went 2 weeks on/off for 2 months.
Anyway here we go....
I ordered a 10 amp cycle from a board sponsor and they arrived in powder form. I followed allbeef's technique of preparing the injections. I used a sterile saline solution and instead of doing 2 IM shots at 40 mcg, 3 times a day... I did 1 IM shot, dosed at 80 MCG, 3 times a day to start out. So basically I went through 1 powdered amp in two days.
I wasn't trying to use PGCL for an anabolic effect, I was using it for fat loss, so I didn't do spot injections for gains. So most of my shots were in my butt cheek, just alternated everytime I shot.
Here were my side effects:
I was terribly nervous my first shot because the drug is so new, I was going by one persons side effects I read about, but I sucked it up and injected into my butt check and hoped for the best. after about 45 minutes I was making a trip to the bathroom. Now, the shitting episode doesn't come on you all of a sudden, it just makes you have to go. It's not like " Oh! Ima shit my pants if I don't find a bathroom!!!" It just like taking a laxative, it disrupts your normal schedule. after about a week of injections, my shitting episodes stopped. I increased the doses to 120 mcg a shot. still no shitting episodes....so in my experience the shitting regulated itself after a week into my cycle even at high doses of 120 to 140 mcg a shot.
I was on the end of a clen cycle (40 mcg on a taper down) when I started this PGCL. I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS AT ALL! The first day I started injecting I felt as if I had the flu. my body ached, I had terrible headaches. I felt fucked up!! After the clen was stopped. My body was fine.
The only other side effect is a slight increase in body temperature. I know it was not from the clen because as i'm typing now 2 weeks off the clen and my last amp of PGCL my body temp is still a little high.
My training has really subsided since I started PGCL. I was more of a cardio man (5 times a week/40 minutes a day) But I must add that PGCL will make you feel lethargic. I found myself very winded 20 minutes into my cardio routine and losing 20 to 30 lbs on my bench press and struggling to finish my final sets in my weight training. I felt as if everything was harder to do, like I backslide on my training by 4 months. Not a good side effect for me at all...I'm assuming that once I finish the cycle my level of energy will return to normal. I will update on the situation.
Results:
I lost 15 lbs. in a little under 2 weeks. some water weight, alot of fat. It really is incredible to watch your fat melt away with this drug. You can go to bed and wake up an see results with PGCL. I do not know about gains to much because I was focusing more on fat loss with this cycle and boy does the drug eat some fat! Clenbuterol doesn't even come close. I do not know of long term effects but the sides effects for me were tolerable.
So there you go....
I hope my two cents helps some of you make a decision if you were curious about PGCL, I encourage others to post there experiences so we can see more results on this new drug. If you have question about something I forgot to post just ask and I'll do my best to answer.
Happy lifting guys/girls!
After doing a search on the board for PGCL, there's a wonderfully explained experience of this new drug written by Allbeef's first hand experience, which he does a great job of answering alot of questions someone might be having if they are contemplating using this relatively new "wonder" drug. But if you continue reading other posts, you'll find that his experience is relatively the only experience we can really go by if one was curious about cycling this drug. So with that said I decided to go ahead and post my experience and result with PGCL.
A little about me....
I am new to this board and I have been training for about a year and a half ( I know it's not very long) some might raise the eyebrow and wonder "Why would he want to use PGCL and he's only been training for such a short time?"
Well, at the beginning of 2006, I was a disaster....I was a fat slob of a man, I was 5 ft. 11" and weighed in at 240 lbs. I was 60 lbs overweight and it was all fat, no muscle at all. on top of that I smoked cigarettes and drank alcohol, and basically was a living trash can when it came to food.... devouring anything in my way as long as it tasted good. My health was in trouble, my body felt the aches and my lungs would get winded from the slightest bit of exercise.
I remember right before new years I went with my six year old son to the park by my house and in this park they had a jungle gym which was my sons favorite thing to play with in the whole area. I mean when we pulled up he would run straight to that and play on it for hours, completely ignoring any other thing at this park to play with. Well it was a quiet day and we were the only ones there at the time and he wanted me to climb up the jungle gym and play with him. Reluctantly, I climbed my fat ass slowly and surely around this monstrosity they called a jungle gym and after about 3 minutes of this, I had enough. I climbed down, wore out and told my son daddy's had enough. It looked like I killed his dog or something. I saw him disappointed that he didn't have anyone to play with. I felt terrible that I was in such bad shape that I couldn't even keep up with my own son for more than five minutes, and I felt embarrassed of myself too.
I decided to change my lifestyle at that point. New years came, it was a new year, a new way of life. I started an exercise routine, stopped smoking and drinking, changed my eating habits. It was hell at first, I could barley keep a fast walk around my neighborhood block. but a fast walk turned to a jog, a jog turned into a run, a block turned into 2, then 1/2 mile, then a mile....2 miles....3 miles....five miles.
Now here I am 65 lbs. lighter. I still have miles to go and mountains to climb to be on a level as some of you on this forum find yourself but I'm beginning the journey!
Anyway before the the cycle began I found myself at a plateau...it seemed like whatever I did, I couldn't drop my last 15 lbs, so after reading about PGCL I decided to try it out.
My stats before:
30 years old/ male
190 lbs, roughly 18% body fat
only steroid experience was a clenbuterol cycle that went 2 weeks on/off for 2 months.
Anyway here we go....
I ordered a 10 amp cycle from a board sponsor and they arrived in powder form. I followed allbeef's technique of preparing the injections. I used a sterile saline solution and instead of doing 2 IM shots at 40 mcg, 3 times a day... I did 1 IM shot, dosed at 80 MCG, 3 times a day to start out. So basically I went through 1 powdered amp in two days.
I wasn't trying to use PGCL for an anabolic effect, I was using it for fat loss, so I didn't do spot injections for gains. So most of my shots were in my butt cheek, just alternated everytime I shot.
Here were my side effects:
I was terribly nervous my first shot because the drug is so new, I was going by one persons side effects I read about, but I sucked it up and injected into my butt check and hoped for the best. after about 45 minutes I was making a trip to the bathroom. Now, the shitting episode doesn't come on you all of a sudden, it just makes you have to go. It's not like " Oh! Ima shit my pants if I don't find a bathroom!!!" It just like taking a laxative, it disrupts your normal schedule. after about a week of injections, my shitting episodes stopped. I increased the doses to 120 mcg a shot. still no shitting episodes....so in my experience the shitting regulated itself after a week into my cycle even at high doses of 120 to 140 mcg a shot.
I was on the end of a clen cycle (40 mcg on a taper down) when I started this PGCL. I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS AT ALL! The first day I started injecting I felt as if I had the flu. my body ached, I had terrible headaches. I felt fucked up!! After the clen was stopped. My body was fine.
The only other side effect is a slight increase in body temperature. I know it was not from the clen because as i'm typing now 2 weeks off the clen and my last amp of PGCL my body temp is still a little high.
My training has really subsided since I started PGCL. I was more of a cardio man (5 times a week/40 minutes a day) But I must add that PGCL will make you feel lethargic. I found myself very winded 20 minutes into my cardio routine and losing 20 to 30 lbs on my bench press and struggling to finish my final sets in my weight training. I felt as if everything was harder to do, like I backslide on my training by 4 months. Not a good side effect for me at all...I'm assuming that once I finish the cycle my level of energy will return to normal. I will update on the situation.
Results:
I lost 15 lbs. in a little under 2 weeks. some water weight, alot of fat. It really is incredible to watch your fat melt away with this drug. You can go to bed and wake up an see results with PGCL. I do not know about gains to much because I was focusing more on fat loss with this cycle and boy does the drug eat some fat! Clenbuterol doesn't even come close. I do not know of long term effects but the sides effects for me were tolerable.
So there you go....
I hope my two cents helps some of you make a decision if you were curious about PGCL, I encourage others to post there experiences so we can see more results on this new drug. If you have question about something I forgot to post just ask and I'll do my best to answer.
Happy lifting guys/girls!
