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My wife and I both have to have Adrenal Fatique.

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We both have gone at least the past 7years with caffine everyday. Wheter its diet pills, coffee, energy drinks,etc... we have to have it to function. If not we get headaches and just so extremely tired if we dont have it. Today was an off day from the gym. I wake up and have like 150mg caffine and just still exhaused, then a few hours later a large coffe from starbucks, didnt do a dent, now drinking a low carb monster and still nothing. Is it absolutely necassary to go off caffine for a while inorder to restore the adreanals or can you still use it daily moderately and take supps to restore the adreanals. Other than humanofort and reset a.d. is there anything else that will really help and how long does it take.
 
We both have gone at least the past 7years with caffine everyday. Wheter its diet pills, coffee, energy drinks,etc... we have to have it to function. If not we get headaches and just so extremely tired if we dont have it. Today was an off day from the gym. I wake up and have like 150mg caffine and just still exhaused, then a few hours later a large coffe from starbucks, didnt do a dent, now drinking a low carb monster and still nothing. Is it absolutely necassary to go off caffine for a while inorder to restore the adreanals or can you still use it daily moderately and take supps to restore the adreanals. Other than humanofort and reset a.d. is there anything else that will really help and how long does it take.
sounds like you're going through withdrawals. i'm the same way. i can't function without my coffee. i only take 2 cups a day. sounds like you are a serious caffeine junkie:p good luck man


Caffeine headaches are caused by withdrawal from caffeine, an addictive drug that alters the nervous system.

Caffeine fits into and occupies adenosine receptors located on the surface of neurons (nerve cells), but doesn't activate the adenosine receptors it occupies; caffeine merely blocks adenosine receptors, so blocks the action of adenosine, a naturally-occurring neurotransmitter chemical. The nervous system adapts to this blockage by becoming more sensitive to adenosine. This nervous adaptation allows a person to function fairly normally despite the interfering presence of caffeine.

Unfortunately, a nervous system adapted to caffeine is ill-adapted to life without caffeine. If a caffeine-adapted nervous system goes too long without caffeine, it malfunctions, producing symptoms that often include headache.

Headaches are caused by excessive adenosine receptor activation. If too many adenosine molecules bind (attach) themselves to too many adenosine receptors, and those receptors hold onto adenosine molecules for too long, the nervous system malfunctions.

It malfunctions because excessive adenosine excessively inhibits the release of other neurotransmitter molecules, including serotonin, norepinephrine, acetylcholine, and dopamine, that normally keep the nervous system working properly. The adenosine-caused shortage of those excitatory neurochemicals leads to malfunctioning that produces migraine symptoms.

Adenosine applied to the skin causes localized pain and vascular dilation. Excessive adenosine in the head causes the head pain and vascular dilation typical of migraine.

Caffeine doesn't trigger headache; rather, it causes headache by a mechanism of addiction and withdrawal.
 
Not to brag.

But, I bet my left nut I could cure you. I'm a Chi Master who can cure through the internet.

I cure thousands yesterday. A good 5 at least knew it. The rest I just did because I'm a nice guy.

It's free too. By the way. You have nothing to lose.


Mattt
 
Matt S Apr 18, 2009 8:36 PM - Delete Reply
In Response To: Sherry Walker
No problem.

You are welcome.

Yawn! LOL!

Sherry Walker Apr 18, 2009 8:34 PM - Reply
In Response To: Matt S
I have been feeling the healing! I keep getting real hot and almost sweaty! I can feel the warmth going through me! Bless you for what you do!

Matt S Apr 18, 2009 7:56 PM - Delete Reply

I'm healing anyone who pops onto the site. If you feel a warm tingly sensation it's me healing you.

I warmed you all to cover y our eyes! I'm looking at all your pictures in the members area and sending cHI out your way. Just healing.

I realize most of you would rather be sick and stuck sucking Big Borthers / Big Pharmas Phalus.


Sorry, but Free-Will is so 90's.

Matt S Apr 18, 2009 7:45 PM - Delete Reply
In Response To: Sherry Walker
I"m turning on your own super healing abilities. I'm turning on all your latent psychic abilities. That's part of what I'm doing.

I'm here to help, not harm.
Here's a testimonial. I don't like. I'm healing a guy I met the other night. I'm letting stay with me. The govt. made him homeless.



Sherry Walker Apr 18, 2009 4:17 PM - Reply
In Response To: Matt S
Matt has been a great help to me! I have experienced severe lower back and hip pain for several months, to the point where it was totally debilitating! Matt is AMAZING! He answered my post and thought he could help. The doctor didnt help! I posted that I had heard of psychic healing, but didnt know anything about it. Again, Matt is AMAZING! After one session my back feels so much better. He told me everything that was taking place as we went along, and what would follow. After the session, I cut off my heating pad which I have lived on for several months--to the point where I have burned my back up! I am now able to sit and stand normally without crying out in pain! About one hour after the session, my daughter was hungry so we went to go get take out. One of the tests for me was walking down two sets of steps in my foyer. Usually I have had to take it real slow holding on and moaning and groaning in pain. Not this time! I walked down the steps without holding on and at a normal speed. Another test was getting into the car. To my amazement I got into the car without crying out in pain at a normal pace! Another test for me was to slightly turn my body to back my car out of the driveway. Again, I was able to do this without moaning and groaning in pain! My daughter said it was truely a miracle! I havent been able to do all this without pain in a very long time! I am not saying all my pain is completely gone, I do have some soreness still in my hips. Hopefully some time soon I will be completely pain free! If you too are in severe pain then please seek out Matt's help! Give it a try! If you are here on this site, then you already have an open mind and believe in the paranormal. I was ready to try anything to get rid of the pain. Now, I still dont know much about psychic healing, but what I do know is that it works! At least, it has worked for me! BLESS YOU MATT!

Sherry Walker Apr 18, 2009 6:44 PM - Reply
Have had a second chat session with Matt. Quite a bit of my soreness has left my hips. I am able to move around much better than I have in a very long time! I have not cut on my heating pad since after my first session, and dont feel the need to. This has honestly been a BLESSING to me! Very little soreness left in my hips! I honestly think I can move around with out taking the "loopy" pills the doctor gave me! Although I did just take my scheduled dose. I will write more when I have more to report. If you have a need for any type of healing, I suggest that you contact Matt S. He is the Real Deal! If you have an open mind and truely believe, he can help you too! Just Try It! It Really Works!


Sherry Walker Apr 18, 2009 8:34 PM - Reply
In Response To: Matt S
I have been feeling the healing! I keep getting real hot and almost sweaty! I can feel the warmth going through me! Bless you for what you do!




Sorry, for wasting my time. Trying to help anyone who needs healing.
 
Sinestro thanks for the help w/ the knee it feels alot better and for anyone else just give ita try it works if you open up your mind
 
Matt S Apr 18, 2009 8:36 PM - Delete Reply
In Response To: Sherry Walker
No problem.

You are welcome.

Yawn! LOL!

Sherry Walker Apr 18, 2009 8:34 PM - Reply
In Response To: Matt S
I have been feeling the healing! I keep getting real hot and almost sweaty! I can feel the warmth going through me! Bless you for what you do!

Matt S Apr 18, 2009 7:56 PM - Delete Reply

I'm healing anyone who pops onto the site. If you feel a warm tingly sensation it's me healing you.

I warmed you all to cover y our eyes! I'm looking at all your pictures in the members area and sending cHI out your way. Just healing.

I realize most of you would rather be sick and stuck sucking Big Borthers / Big Pharmas Phalus.


Sorry, but Free-Will is so 90's.

Matt S Apr 18, 2009 7:45 PM - Delete Reply
In Response To: Sherry Walker
I"m turning on your own super healing abilities. I'm turning on all your latent psychic abilities. That's part of what I'm doing.

I'm here to help, not harm.
Here's a testimonial. I don't like. I'm healing a guy I met the other night. I'm letting stay with me. The govt. made him homeless.



Sherry Walker Apr 18, 2009 4:17 PM - Reply
In Response To: Matt S
Matt has been a great help to me! I have experienced severe lower back and hip pain for several months, to the point where it was totally debilitating! Matt is AMAZING! He answered my post and thought he could help. The doctor didnt help! I posted that I had heard of psychic healing, but didnt know anything about it. Again, Matt is AMAZING! After one session my back feels so much better. He told me everything that was taking place as we went along, and what would follow. After the session, I cut off my heating pad which I have lived on for several months--to the point where I have burned my back up! I am now able to sit and stand normally without crying out in pain! About one hour after the session, my daughter was hungry so we went to go get take out. One of the tests for me was walking down two sets of steps in my foyer. Usually I have had to take it real slow holding on and moaning and groaning in pain. Not this time! I walked down the steps without holding on and at a normal speed. Another test was getting into the car. To my amazement I got into the car without crying out in pain at a normal pace! Another test for me was to slightly turn my body to back my car out of the driveway. Again, I was able to do this without moaning and groaning in pain! My daughter said it was truely a miracle! I havent been able to do all this without pain in a very long time! I am not saying all my pain is completely gone, I do have some soreness still in my hips. Hopefully some time soon I will be completely pain free! If you too are in severe pain then please seek out Matt's help! Give it a try! If you are here on this site, then you already have an open mind and believe in the paranormal. I was ready to try anything to get rid of the pain. Now, I still dont know much about psychic healing, but what I do know is that it works! At least, it has worked for me! BLESS YOU MATT!

Sherry Walker Apr 18, 2009 6:44 PM - Reply
Have had a second chat session with Matt. Quite a bit of my soreness has left my hips. I am able to move around much better than I have in a very long time! I have not cut on my heating pad since after my first session, and dont feel the need to. This has honestly been a BLESSING to me! Very little soreness left in my hips! I honestly think I can move around with out taking the "loopy" pills the doctor gave me! Although I did just take my scheduled dose. I will write more when I have more to report. If you have a need for any type of healing, I suggest that you contact Matt S. He is the Real Deal! If you have an open mind and truely believe, he can help you too! Just Try It! It Really Works!


Sherry Walker Apr 18, 2009 8:34 PM - Reply
In Response To: Matt S
I have been feeling the healing! I keep getting real hot and almost sweaty! I can feel the warmth going through me! Bless you for what you do!




Sorry, for wasting my time. Trying to help anyone who needs healing.

You are a master in chi? Paranormal website, exercising evil spirits, You have 30 phyic powers? You shoot rays from your finger tips? Sorry, I didn't get a warm tingleing feeling, but to each his own.
 
We both have gone at least the past 7years with caffine everyday. Wheter its diet pills, coffee, energy drinks,etc... we have to have it to function. If not we get headaches and just so extremely tired if we dont have it. Today was an off day from the gym. I wake up and have like 150mg caffine and just still exhaused, then a few hours later a large coffe from starbucks, didnt do a dent, now drinking a low carb monster and still nothing. Is it absolutely necassary to go off caffine for a while inorder to restore the adreanals or can you still use it daily moderately and take supps to restore the adreanals. Other than humanofort and reset a.d. is there anything else that will really help and how long does it take.

Fourthglen, just like a drastic diet doesn't work, you should have come off the caffiene slowly. Semms to me extra sleep and rest would have been better.
 
You are a master in chi? Paranormal website, exercising evil spirits, You have 30 phyic powers? You shoot rays from your finger tips? Sorry, I didn't get a warm tingleing feeling, but to each his own.


Well, I think I"d put most Masters to shame with what I do. I did'nt emntion the Class 5 hurricane I moved.

It's called excising not exercising.

I have 30+ Psychic abiltites.

I shoot CHI from my fingertips, palm chakras and maybe even my ass!.

I'm a Remote Influencer.

I've programmed myself. If anybody comes at me illl will I'll stop their heart or turn off their brain! Why, would I be paranoid? It's my Army training. I trust NOBDDY! I also study magic, herbalism etc. I don't just use one form of protection I use whatever I need. I've taken Kempo etc.

Im the real deal. Sorry! I love the naysayers. Maybe, if i get million followers you'd believe me? Nope, I bet you wouldn't.

"I could shit gold bricks and piss lead! There'd still be naysayers!"

Matt
 
Well, I think I"d put most Masters to shame with what I do. I did'nt emntion the Class 5 hurricane I moved.

It's called excising not exercising.

I have 30+ Psychic abiltites.

I shoot CHI from my fingertips, palm chakras and maybe even my ass!.

I'm a Remote Influencer.

I've programmed myself. If anybody comes at me illl will I'll stop their heart or turn off their brain! Why, would I be paranoid? It's my Army training. I trust NOBDDY! I also study magic, herbalism etc. I don't just use one form of protection I use whatever I need. I've taken Kempo etc.

Im the real deal. Sorry! I love the naysayers. Maybe, if i get million followers you'd believe me? Nope, I bet you wouldn't.

"I could shit gold bricks and piss lead! There'd still be naysayers!"

Matt

Well, like I said,to each his own. If that is what you believe, more power to you. I just happen to believe other things, who says ever one has to be the same?
 
Bite the bullet and go through the withdrawal. Start on a Friday and be lazy and sleep all weekend if possible. Use tylenol etc. if needed, but it will be better in a couple of days. I did it over christmas and felt great. It took me a year to finally do it, but i felt much better
 
Can we keep posts on topic guys. This is a intresting thread and I wont give any more warnings.
 
his original post that started the whole thing states clearly why he thinks that


And what is clear is that he has no valid evidence to suspect its AF. Caffeine intake and general fatigue are not sufficient (which is why I asked).

Firstly, those symptoms are vague as hell and almost everyone will exp them at some point. You cant point out any real pathology from this post because theres nothing in "adrenal fatigue" (AF) that is quantifiable. Making a claim of worn down adrenal function would require the ability to test adrenal function. Measurement of adrenal hormones is problematic enough in clinical research let alone in an individual client. Either way, you need a doctor.

There are real adrenal pathologies like Addison's (adrenal insufficiency) but that doesnt exist in 80-96% of the population. Most people talk about AF which has nothing tagged to it other than general symptoms of stress and fatigue (which, guess what, go away when you get rid of the stress).

Now, if you think that over secretion of adrenal hormones stresses the adrenals, you're taking a wild leap cbe ause there's nothing in the medical literature regarding that. It might follow logically but there's nothing to prove it. I believe in hormone dysfunction, overtraining, adrenal fatigue etc.
One problem here seems to be with the use of the term adrenal fatigue. I see adrenal fatigue and I think of just that, a worn down adrenal function. However, perhaps others are seeing it as FAD disorder lingo, in which case its impossible to treat since there is NO formal classification for AF.

So Im curious as to how the OP has recognized a medical condition (like Addison's, Cushing's etc.) that requires a doctor. Unless you've got a real defect or are undergoing very chronic stressses (ie, hard training + hard diet + shitty long hours at work) you're not having a problem.
 
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Im not positive either of us actually have AF. Im hoping we dont b/c it seems like true AF sounds much more serious than what we have. Maybe are adrenals have just taken a beaten, who knows, thats why im asking. Thanks
 
And what is clear is that he has no valid evidence to suspect its AF. Caffeine intake and general fatigue are not sufficient (which is why I asked).

Firstly, those symptoms are vague as hell and almost everyone will exp them at some point. You cant point out any real pathology from this post because theres nothing in "adrenal fatigue" (AF) that is quantifiable. Making a claim of worn down adrenal function would require the ability to test adrenal function. Measurement of adrenal hormones is problematic enough in clinical research let alone in an individual client. Either way, you need a doctor.

There are real adrenal pathologies like Addison's (adrenal insufficiency) but that doesnt exist in 80-96% of the population. Most people talk about AF which has nothing tagged to it other than general symptoms of stress and fatigue (which, guess what, go away when you get rid of the stress).

Now, if you think that over secretion of adrenal hormones stresses the adrenals, you're taking a wild leap cbe ause there's nothing in the medical literature regarding that. It might follow logically but there's nothing to prove it. I believe in hormone dysfunction, overtraining, adrenal fatigue etc.
One problem here seems to be with the use of the term adrenal fatigue. I see adrenal fatigue and I think of just that, a worn down adrenal function. However, perhaps others are seeing it as FAD disorder lingo, in which case its impossible to treat since there is formal classification for AF.

So Im curious as to how the OP has recognized a medical condition (like Addison's, Cushing's etc.) that requires a doctor. Unless you've got a real defect or are undergoing very chronic stressses (ie, hard training + hard diet + shitty long hours at work) you're not having a problem.

Great post!
 
The withdrawals don't last that long, but they can be really nasty. When I was a kid, my dad had to go from two pots of coffee a day to zero because of chronic migraines, and he was on the couch shivering and puking for two days, then he was fine. Just bite the bullet and stop.
 

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