Natabolic's Guide to Painless Injections

[natabolic]

more of a guide to painless POST injection.. but whatever lol.

not so much a guide as just a few things ive figured out over the years about reducing and nearly eliminating post-injection pain. (DOIP-delayed onset injection pain ) This will probably help out a lot of beginners, but i know some guys that are more advanced that still could use some of these.

1. take a nice hot shower before your shot, it helps you relax. and while youre in there, why not clean the injection site with some antibacterial soap.. couldnt hurt. (im really paranoid about infection LOL)

2. prior to cleaning the injection site with alcohol (after you finish your shower, dry off and put on new clothes of course), apply a hot washcloth(that has been wrung out) with a bit of pressure on the injection site. again, the heat helps relax the muscle. this alone helps make injection pain/DOIP less painful.

3. run the syringe with the oil based compound under a stream of hot water for around a minute. helps the oil flow/dissipate from the injection site more easily. less pressure you have to apply while injection, less needle movement = less pain.

4. clean the area with alcohol, as normal. clean the tops of vials, use new pins. of course, everything as normal. 23's for oils, 25's for water based. i find 23g needles to be the best for painless injections for a couple reasons. they arent so small that youre having to apply a lot of pressure to the plunger (which can cause unnecessary movement of the needle inside the muscle), and being small enough to not hurt. so swab the injection site, pin as normal.

5. after removing needle from injection site, apply an alcohol swab, and DEEPLY massage over where the needle was. DEEPLY, do not be gentle about it. it really helps dissipate the oil. and when i say massage, i dont mean rub. some guys start rubbing, and that only irritates the site. massage with the swab for about 1-2 mins.

6. apply hot washcloth yet again, heat helps keep the muscle relaxed, and even helps dissipate the oil. even massage with the hot cloth if you choose.. MASSAGE.. not rub.

7. STRETCH THE SITE OUT HARD. Say you did a quad shot, stretch the quad out. put your foot up on your bed, with the other foot on the ground, and push your knee towards the ground... not sure if that makes sense.. but most everyone knows how to stretch their quad stretch for around 2 mins... nice and deep.

8. FOAM ROLLER..or as i like to use PVC PIPE ROLLER. im assuming most guys on here know about foam rolling after training, helps with recovery, as well as many other things. i like to massage the injection site out with the roller, just do about 10 nice, slow, painful rolls, back and fourth. let it help massage the injection site, which can further dissipate the oils.

9. STRETCH AGAIN.

10. tell me your injection pain wasnt A LOT LESS the next day.

so those are just a few things ive picked up in my life. theyve definitely helped me, and definitely helped a bro of mine who was crippled from a quad shot for a whole week LOL.

 

[loganb_football]

Massaging at the injection site could effect half life of drug...

 

[natabolic]

Massaging at the injection site could effect half life of drug...

ive never found that to be a problem.

 

[aeliop]

My Honest Opinion

more of a guide to painless POST injection.. but whatever lol.

not so much a guide as just a few things ive figured out over the years about reducing and nearly eliminating post-injection pain. (DOIP-delayed onset injection pain ) This will probably help out a lot of beginners, but i know some guys that are more advanced that still could use some of these.

1. take a nice hot shower before your shot, it helps you relax. and while youre in there, why not clean the injection site with some antibacterial soap.. couldnt hurt. (im really paranoid about infection LOL)

2. prior to cleaning the injection site with alcohol (after you finish your shower, dry off and put on new clothes of course), apply a hot washcloth(that has been wrung out) with a bit of pressure on the injection site. again, the heat helps relax the muscle. this alone helps make injection pain/DOIP less painful.

3. run the syringe with the oil based compound under a stream of hot water for around a minute. helps the oil flow/dissipate from the injection site more easily. less pressure you have to apply while injection, less needle movement = less pain.

4. clean the area with alcohol, as normal. clean the tops of vials, use new pins. of course, everything as normal. 23's for oils, 25's for water based. i find 23g needles to be the best for painless injections for a couple reasons. they arent so small that youre having to apply a lot of pressure to the plunger (which can cause unnecessary movement of the needle inside the muscle), and being small enough to not hurt. so swab the injection site, pin as normal.

5. after removing needle from injection site, apply an alcohol swab, and DEEPLY massage over where the needle was. DEEPLY, do not be gentle about it. it really helps dissipate the oil. and when i say massage, i dont mean rub. some guys start rubbing, and that only irritates the site. massage with the swab for about 1-2 mins.

6. apply hot washcloth yet again, heat helps keep the muscle relaxed, and even helps dissipate the oil. even massage with the hot cloth if you choose.. MASSAGE.. not rub.

7. STRETCH THE SITE OUT HARD. Say you did a quad shot, stretch the quad out. put your foot up on your bed, with the other foot on the ground, and push your knee towards the ground... not sure if that makes sense.. but most everyone knows how to stretch their quad stretch for around 2 mins... nice and deep.

8. FOAM ROLLER..or as i like to use PVC PIPE ROLLER. im assuming most guys on here know about foam rolling after training, helps with recovery, as well as many other things. i like to massage the injection site out with the roller, just do about 10 nice, slow, painful rolls, back and fourth. let it help massage the injection site, which can further dissipate the oils.

9. STRETCH AGAIN.

10. tell me your injection pain wasnt A LOT LESS the next day.

so those are just a few things ive picked up in my life. theyve definitely helped me, and definitely helped a bro of mine who was crippled from a quad shot for a whole week LOL.

Honestly if an individual decides to take the plung and delv into this type of activity (depending on country of origin illegal, injecting foreign substance into body, risking health, possible infection, etc....) I would hate to think that they need 10 tips so the injection doesn't "hurt." In reality one's priorities really need to be in order.

Let see here

Fear of possible imprisonment, ......."no problem"...... you could get sick and lose a limb or die........ "I am ready"....... The injection might hurt a little and be sore...... "Oh, really? Well in that case I don't know, you mean it might hurt a little? Can you give me 10 stretches and suggestions so it won't hurt?"


Kind of Silly huh?

 

[nickman1978]

THANKS 4 TRYING 2 HELP.....

 

[Massive G]

Honestly if an individual decides to take the plung and delv into this type of activity (depending on country of origin illegal, injecting foreign substance into body, risking health, possible infection, etc....) I would hate to think that they need 10 tips so the injection doesn't "hurt." In reality one's priorities really need to be in order.

Let see here

Fear of possible imprisonment, ......."no problem"...... you could get sick and lose a limb or die........ "I am ready"....... The injection might hurt a little and be sore...... "Oh, really? Well in that case I don't know, you mean it might hurt a little? Can you give me 10 stretches and suggestions so it won't hurt?"


Kind of Silly huh?

LOL kinda thinking the same thing aeliop...the number one thing wasn't written which applies in all cases is ensuring the oil you inject is sterile and low solvent levels....and that takes less than ten steps. more like 3.
Dilute with USP oil.
Bake
Filer into sterile vial.

 

[Johnny Smiles]

valiant effort natabolic

but if i have to do all that, honestly i would just stay natty lol.
what a bunch of work! -JS

 

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[rAJJIN]

I Just always try and do it Like they would in a Dr Office.
Alcohol swab, pin, cotton ball , bandied. Sometimes no bandaid is needed.
(I know all you guys have some underwear with blood stain cheeks)
Ive never seen them run the syringe or medicine vial under water or had them massage the area after. Or say wait a minute while I bake and refilter this stuff lol you would be like WTF

#1 tip from me is get some good quality Steroids. A Brand you know and trust. Not the Black market
Home brew bargain of the week.

If you are One of those guys and you cant figure out why your arse feels like its going to fall off and your hobbled up for 3 days you might want to go over those 10 steps natabolic posted

 

[Jrizzle385]

The only two things I've ever found to make a difference...


1. Inject as slowly as you have the patience for

2. Good, thorough massage of the site post injection

 

[j4ever]

I Just always try and do it Like they would in a Dr Office.
Alcohol swab, pin, cotton ball , bandied. Sometimes no bandaid is needed.
(I know all you guys have some underwear with blood stain cheeks)
Ive never seen them run the syringe or medicine vial under water or had them massage the area after. Or say wait a minute while I bake and refilter this stuff lol you would be like WTF

#1 tip from me is get some good quality Steroids. A Brand you know and trust. Not the Black market
Home brew bargain of the week.
If you are One of those guys and you cant figure out why your arse feels like its going to fall off and your hobbled up for 3 days you might want to go over those 10 steps natabolic posted

true that

 

[Elvia1023]

I think Raj pretty much summed it up. Good attempt but I think it could have been covered in a few points and not ten. What if your doing multiple shots per day (HGH etc) you would spend half your day on your 10 steps... wouldn't have time to actually go the gym

Obviosuly make sure everything is sterile (alcohol pads/gel and new pins) and inject slowly etc. Obviously some haven't a clue and are injecting in an unsafe manner. But most of the pain people experience from injections is cause of the content of whats in their vial (certain esters, high dosed tests etc etc) Baking is the best way to ensure painless injections... worth researching. Go with a trusted supplier.

 

[mikeyt869]

7. STRETCH THE SITE OUT HARD. Say you did a quad shot, stretch the quad out. put your foot up on your bed, with the other foot on the ground, and push your knee towards the ground... not sure if that makes sense.. but most everyone knows how to stretch their quad stretch for around 2 mins... nice and deep.

pretty sure thats a ham stretch

 

[MaTrlx]

Imo, a very good read related to this topic....

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/43857-why-not-deal-problem-before-occurs-infections-painful-gear-test-flu-etc.html

sure does beat spending up to 15 minutes following steps 1-10 outlined by Nat after every single shot....(no offense Nat)

 

[DinoHeavyD]

I dont believe massaging the injection site afterwards is a good thing to do. I think it could push bacteria down into the injection site and help to cause an abcess.

 

[Dubs]

pretty sure thats a ham stretch

i think hes referring to the top of the foot on to top of the bed, so the knee cap is facing the ground. so you can sink your knee downwards, and stretch the quad. i do that every time after i do a quad shot. i also like heat.

 

[NYC Diesel]

gonna have to try this to ease the sting of this ugl acid

 

[natabolic]

Honestly if an individual decides to take the plung and delv into this type of activity (depending on country of origin illegal, injecting foreign substance into body, risking health, possible infection, etc....) I would hate to think that they need 10 tips so the injection doesn't "hurt." In reality one's priorities really need to be in order.

Let see here

Fear of possible imprisonment, ......."no problem"...... you could get sick and lose a limb or die........ "I am ready"....... The injection might hurt a little and be sore...... "Oh, really? Well in that case I don't know, you mean it might hurt a little? Can you give me 10 stretches and suggestions so it won't hurt?"


Kind of Silly huh?

LOL this made me laugh.

LOL kinda thinking the same thing aeliop...the number one thing wasn't written which applies in all cases is ensuring the oil you inject is sterile and low solvent levels....and that takes less than ten steps. more like 3.
Dilute with USP oil.
Bake
Filer into sterile vial.

Totally agree with you brother.

I Just always try and do it Like they would in a Dr Office.
Alcohol swab, pin, cotton ball , bandied. Sometimes no bandaid is needed.
(I know all you guys have some underwear with blood stain cheeks)
Ive never seen them run the syringe or medicine vial under water or had them massage the area after. Or say wait a minute while I bake and refilter this stuff lol you would be like WTF

#1 tip from me is get some good quality Steroids. A Brand you know and trust. Not the Black market
Home brew bargain of the week.

If you are One of those guys and you cant figure out why your arse feels like its going to fall off and your hobbled up for 3 days you might want to go over those 10 steps natabolic posted

yeah thats generally what its for. some guys, even despite filtering/baking/cutting gear, when using large volumes of oils, are still crippled for a bit. these steps seem to help

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/43857-why-not-deal-problem-before-occurs-infections-painful-gear-test-flu-etc.html

sure does beat spending up to 15 minutes following steps 1-10 outlined by Nat after every single shot....(no offense Nat)

Totally agree. I always bake/filter my gear.

]i think hes referring to the top of the foot on to top of the bed, so the knee cap is facing the ground. so you can sink your knee downwards, and stretch the quad.[/B] i do that every time after i do a quad shot. i also like heat.

Correct.

 

[liftalot79]

to Be honest!!!!

I know guys that are Natural(very Few) but the guys with Size and that have been around for years & years do these Steps Including me it's just not in that order. Most guys that have used for years I'm talking about the Pros I know anywhere from 32-46yrs old have rituals during the piing process and after I believe it depends on the Source, the area it could be Virgin tissue or tissue you haven't hit in a long time. I actually have a whole box of BD 1.5 22GA. that had a Burr at the end of them I have a Painful experience until I examined them closely and returned them to the Pharmacy. I'm just saying that these steps are not as crazy as they seem. I feel myself massaging the site without even knowing. And stretching?? If your not that is pretty stupid you should be stretching your Hams, Glutes, etc even if you don't pin.

 

[tflexxin]

Honestly if an individual decides to take the plung and delv into this type of activity (depending on country of origin illegal, injecting foreign substance into body, risking health, possible infection, etc....) I would hate to think that they need 10 tips so the injection doesn't "hurt." In reality one's priorities really need to be in order.

Let see here

Fear of possible imprisonment, ......."no problem"...... you could get sick and lose a limb or die........ "I am ready"....... The injection might hurt a little and be sore...... "Oh, really? Well in that case I don't know, you mean it might hurt a little? Can you give me 10 stretches and suggestions so it won't hurt?"


Kind of Silly huh?

People on this board use STEROIDS???
I'm outta here........

LOL