Need advice

[finny]

I have recently qualified for HRT as my test level was low, low libido, low energy levels. I'm 37 years old and it looks like I might/will continue this for 'life'. The tests were done before my first cycle which I started three weeks ago. So it is not due to AAS. Just found out that within the last six month my libido and all the other things were non-existent.

Here is my question. I was prescribed angrogel which I'm not taking yet as I have started my first cycle of test e @ 500mg/wk. I am also taking HCG throughout the cycle. So, this in intself is like an overdosed HRT for me.

At this point I have two options for end of the cycle:
1) do pct and do IGF/pMGF for 10 weeks 4on/2off
2) same as above but add androgel and continue with androgel past IGF/pMGF into the next cycle. For option #2, is PCT still recommended?

Just trying to figure out what makes sense. If I'm after steady, elevated test levels as in HRT, then I would think #2. If that's the case, by using test year round, won't your system become accustomed to test and next time or the time after that when I run a cycle it won't be as effective?

Thank you. I would appreciate some input here.

 

[finny]

Come on guys, we have som many knowledgeable people in here...

 

[edge250]

my opinion for what its worth. your on test for life, no need to worry about pct. run alittle hcg as your doc prolly told you to. go with #2 no pct

 

[oldfella]

I just saw this thread. Welcome to the geriatrics club bro.......LOL, only kidding. Yea, edge is correct, Since on test for life no need for PCT. It will be of no value to you. Just stay on test and when you decide to end cycle just cut the dose back. Probably around 250mg p/wk. Doctors would obviuosly recommend lower but you can vary this as you wish. at 250 p/wk you will feel good, strong and virile. Libido should remain up.....pardon the pun. Every once in a while bump up the dose to 500 p/wk and then back down. Try a few combos and see what works best for you. I'm 48 just got back on and have never felt better. keep us up to date!

 

[thebrick]

I'm 53 and on HRT for life. PCT, what's that? No need. I feel great. You could go the androgel route or the test e. Your preference. The goal here is just to keep your levels in the normal range (or higher ) Like my doc says, you are just giving your body something that it needs to function normally.

 

[Clydesdale]

I'm 53 and on HRT for life. PCT, what's that? No need. I feel great. You could go the androgel route or the test e. Your preference. The goal here is just to keep your levels in the normal range (or higher ) Like my doc says, you are just giving your body something that it needs to function normally.

I'm 48...ditto!

 

[Mr_Magoo]

since this is ur first cycle 500 mg should work well as far as goin off i agree with everyone who said if ur on for life pct holds little value, the igf idea is not a bad idea but depends how important muscle is to you and how much u lose when u go "off" with half the dose, my first reaction is to run the 500 mg then go "off" on 250 mg and see the results so u can prepare for the next run

 

[finny]

Thanks a lot guys. Now I have something to go on. Yes, I'm sure, I will need to experiment a bit.

The reason I'm thinking androgel, because that's what the doc prescribed, it's legal, and covered by my insurance company. Eventually, I will want him to switch me up to an injectible, but I will have to convince him somehow.

I will want to run more cycles with different compounds as well, incorporating test in every cycle.

For between AAS cycles, I would want to run IGF/pMGF. At some point, I will look at GH as well. For now, will run a couple cycles of IGF/pMGF and see how it goes. After that, will switch it up with GH.

Thanks again guys. More insights are always welcomed.

 

[BigJohn]

My 2 cents...

Don't do any AAS injections for at least 2 -3 weeks before going in for a testosterone test.

I made that mistake a while back and my doc cut my HRT dose in half. (And I was only at 1063!!! right where I wanted to be)

personally I would keep the hCG amount low, unless you're trying to increase muscle mass and are doing lots of test. In that case you're not really an HRT patient anymore. IMHO

I use clomid for what hCG does, it's available domestically and doesn't require injections. Check out ChemOne.

Your mileage may vary on this...

 

[thebrick]

I agree with what Big John said. I use the gel because my insurance covers it and it keeps me in the normal range. So when I supplement in addition to the gel, I always come off 3-4 weeks before I am due my blood work so my test levels will not be too high. Your doc will want those somewhere between roughly 250 - 850 and if you are too high, he will cut your dosage.

 

[finny]

Thank guys.

I'm to see the doc in May. No tests, just a visit. I guess he wants to see how I'm doing. My timing is a bit off with the cycle and when I got HRT. It looks like I won't be able to try the gel much before I see him - not much to draw from. Will have to give him some middle of the road experience based on other people's response to the gel. It's not ideal, but I have to work with what I have. I probably would like to up the prescription to 10g daily from 7.5g - this would give me an absorption rate of 70mg per week.