but there is also alot of people who can follow a diet 7 days a week, cant not go to night clubs, party, and wake up in the night 2 eat. You get the results you put in. I can tell a big difference on gear now but i pushed myself has hard as could tell there was no more. telling me to be a 200 pound and under phyique competitor you have to use drugs is out of this world. 90 percent have never squated! 90 percent have never even came t0 30% of there natural potential before they used drugs. All the people who say its not possible are the people who do this. Thats also called a drug body. You see some of these guys stop everything and shrink up to 160 pounds from giants. I see it all the time. Cause they never had the natural hard wroked mass on when there were natural.