It still amazes me that most have overlooked NPP as its probably the most memorable compound I've ever used. I got into steroid cycling with an intense fear of Deca and avoided it completely like many guys on steroid boards in the early 2000's. The problem was the dreaded deca-dick as well as progestin and prolactin sides which were not easy to manage. Back then, RU-486 (morning after pill) was being experimented with and unfortunately the sides were atrocious, stuff like blood in the stool. Old timers will remember...
So Bromo came around, and then Cabergoline and I started feeling confident about using Nandrolone. NPP has been produced as a pharmaceutical product for many decades, but it was always 25mg-50mg/ml and very expensive. I ran the BM Dubol 100, 2ml vials, an East Indian product (supposedly) and WOW! I mean it was absolutely shocking. I was a nandrolone virgin at the time but it soon became my favorite product. I had bromo on hand but I didn't need it at ~400mg or so per week for 6 weeks.
Deca is not suitable for heavy dosing. It simply has too big of a buildup effects and the sides are pronounced because of its slow clearance and drastic buildup. It doesn't lend itself to high doses. I think doses should be limited to 150-200mg per week max, for those who use it year round for joint purposes.
You can by pass many of the sides of Deca by using NPP, the ester allows you to use Nandrolone effectively without waiting around for 3 weeks for substantial blood levels and 4-5 weeks clearance time. Dosing with Deca has a pyramid like effect that is pronounce the higher the dose. This contributes greatly to the bloat and side effects of the drug.
As far as comparing it to Tren Acetate, NPP is not likely to be underdosed. Homebrewers know that it costs about 4X more money to produce Tren as compared to NPP, and the demand is simply not as high. Chances of underdosed products or bad raw material is much lower than something like Tren or Primo. It's essentially a cheap safe buy.
Side effects are also more tolerable. Run 100mg of Real Tren ED vs 100mg of NPP ED and you will feel less sides. I've run up to 150mg ED until the sides became too pronounced for me (BP rise..etc). With Tren, I can barely tolerate 50mg ED. It has better body recomp changes; Tren will burn fat much more efficiently, but it will not build more muscle than NPP.
As far as bloat, it seems to be heavily related to dosing pattern. When I ran NPP every 3 days, I experienced a LOT more bloat than with a EOD dosing schedule. I experienced almost zero bloat with ED shots.
I just see guys looking and trying more physique polishing compounds like Primo and Masteron when they still haven't used Nandrolone. Try the basic cycle which built more mass than any other in the history of bodybuilding: Test/Deca/Dbol. With NPP, you now have an optimized version which allows you to use effective doses with much less sides than Deca. Keep dostinex on hand and you are safe. You want to keep the bloat down, stick to ED or EOD shots and skip the dbol. Run 100mg ED of NPP for only 6 weeks and see what happens. If its not for you, that's fine, but try it at least once before you go spend money on expensive obscure compounds!
So Bromo came around, and then Cabergoline and I started feeling confident about using Nandrolone. NPP has been produced as a pharmaceutical product for many decades, but it was always 25mg-50mg/ml and very expensive. I ran the BM Dubol 100, 2ml vials, an East Indian product (supposedly) and WOW! I mean it was absolutely shocking. I was a nandrolone virgin at the time but it soon became my favorite product. I had bromo on hand but I didn't need it at ~400mg or so per week for 6 weeks.
Deca is not suitable for heavy dosing. It simply has too big of a buildup effects and the sides are pronounced because of its slow clearance and drastic buildup. It doesn't lend itself to high doses. I think doses should be limited to 150-200mg per week max, for those who use it year round for joint purposes.
You can by pass many of the sides of Deca by using NPP, the ester allows you to use Nandrolone effectively without waiting around for 3 weeks for substantial blood levels and 4-5 weeks clearance time. Dosing with Deca has a pyramid like effect that is pronounce the higher the dose. This contributes greatly to the bloat and side effects of the drug.
As far as comparing it to Tren Acetate, NPP is not likely to be underdosed. Homebrewers know that it costs about 4X more money to produce Tren as compared to NPP, and the demand is simply not as high. Chances of underdosed products or bad raw material is much lower than something like Tren or Primo. It's essentially a cheap safe buy.
Side effects are also more tolerable. Run 100mg of Real Tren ED vs 100mg of NPP ED and you will feel less sides. I've run up to 150mg ED until the sides became too pronounced for me (BP rise..etc). With Tren, I can barely tolerate 50mg ED. It has better body recomp changes; Tren will burn fat much more efficiently, but it will not build more muscle than NPP.
As far as bloat, it seems to be heavily related to dosing pattern. When I ran NPP every 3 days, I experienced a LOT more bloat than with a EOD dosing schedule. I experienced almost zero bloat with ED shots.
I just see guys looking and trying more physique polishing compounds like Primo and Masteron when they still haven't used Nandrolone. Try the basic cycle which built more mass than any other in the history of bodybuilding: Test/Deca/Dbol. With NPP, you now have an optimized version which allows you to use effective doses with much less sides than Deca. Keep dostinex on hand and you are safe. You want to keep the bloat down, stick to ED or EOD shots and skip the dbol. Run 100mg ED of NPP for only 6 weeks and see what happens. If its not for you, that's fine, but try it at least once before you go spend money on expensive obscure compounds!