Hey Powerforward ......
powerforward said:
had great success in the past with winny product, but has anyone had any experiences with the paper primo?
btw, rc is the man.
... in case some of our PaperPrimo fans either happen to miss this thread or might be a tad shy, I'll take the liberty of posting up some of the testimonials first-hand users, both male and felmale, have sent in allowing us to add their words to our testimonial pages over at our website (
http://www.redicat.com):
PaperPrimo Testimonials
First Report (Female Perspective)
Dear RediCat,
I just thought you might like a quick update/testimonial. I have been using your PaperPrimo for exactly one week (50mg per day) and didn't expect any noticeable results for several more weeks. Much to my happy surprise I have already dropped a LOT of excess fluid. This is in complete contrast to Oxandrolone and Winny which cause an increase in fluid retention for me (and many other women). I now understand why this drug was so popular amongst women for precompetition hardening up! Will update you in a few more weeks.
MS
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Second Update
Hi RediCat,
The PaperPrimo has been a joy to use. As I said earlier the first thing I noticed was how it didn't cause fluid retention like I get with Winny or Oxandrolone. I verified that this week when I switched back to Oxandrolone and wooosh I gained 2.5kg in fluid. Yuck.
Been using the PaperPrimo at 50mg per day (in two divided doses). At first I though it wasn't working because I wasn't dropping much weight even though my diet has been very strict. But I've lost 3 inches off my waist, 1 inch of each thigh while gaining an inch on my chest and 1/2 inch on my biceps.
All with very little weight loss on restricted calories. Recovery from workouts has been great. Wow. I don't think I'll go back to Oxandrolone! Only negative side has been a slight change of voice, but it's so mild that I'm pretty sure things will return to normal post cycle. Oh yeah, and libido!
Ooops, I guess that's not a negative side
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Hello, I'm FLEX from the Anabolex board and I have been around for the better part of a decade. I was one of the original people that actually had the pleasure of seeing the Cat first come into our fellowship and was one of the first persons to actually give his PaperBol a try to see how it worked and, as most have found out through the years it is every bit as effective as I said it was.
I’m also a strong believer that you’ve got to trust who you’re dealing with just as much as their products, where in doubt I’ve always advised people to steer well clear.
The Cat has my utmost trust and has never lost it throughout the years I have known him.
When offered some of his new paper Primobolan I was more than happy to try it out. I was currently doing a diet phase/cutting with no AS's involved so I put the PaperPrimo in the diet so I would know if it was it doing the job and nothing else. My diet was correct and I have trained for many years and also dieted for years so I knew what to expect from my calorie input and from the cardio and the workouts.
The PaperPrimo helped me in hardening up faster than I normally do and also helped in getting me some good deep cuts to go along with it. As many in the world of the net will tell you I don't blow smoke up anyone's ass no matter who it is. I just tell it like it is and what it does for me and it did help me in my cutting.
It’s worth remembering that NO drug will cut you, it takes a proper diet, proper training and cardio to obtain results. The AS's only help with it and also helps the body recoup in recovery. It's no miracle drug, there are no miracle drugs out there you can stick in your ass and it do the work for you, its only a helper to archive the results you're after.
I also think Primobolan in general is a weaker steroid (injectable or oral) and in turn will give less side effects but also gives lesser results as say testosterone or Methandienone and etc. But I think the PaperPrimo is a good addition to any cycle where sides are a factor or a change in pace is wanted. I know a lot of women will use it in building muscle as it’s a safer choice verses some of the other options out there.
So, in closing, I think the PaperPrimo worked just as well as the injectable did for me. Everyone is different and I’m sure results will vary just like everything else out there.
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Huckster's PaperPrimobolan Cycle Results
Cycle Length: Approximately 40 days
Dosage: 100-150mgs/daily
Product: PaperPrimo
Results:
Gained 7 lbs of LBM, with no gain in Bodyfat. Zero side effects were present - No hairloss, acne, water-retention, etc... Strength gains became noticeable at about the 4 week mark, with a steady increase. Not dramatic, but consistent. Definite increase in pumps, muscles felt full around the clock. Recovery rate was improved substantially, with post-workout soreness duration cut literally in half. Only dietary modifications were slightly higher and more consistent feeding in protein.
Overall, a very fun compound to run, particularly when weighing in lack of any noticeable side effects. This leads me to believe that budget provided, this would be an ideal item to run for extended periods. I did not require any post-cycle recovery regimen, as I experienced no testicular shrinkage or loss of libido. This is not to be taken out of context though, as this WILL vary from individual to individual.
Two thumbs up for another great Paper Product!
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First off I would like to thank Redi Cat for his friendship over the years and for choosing me to be one of the first to sample one of his new products in his updated Paper Product line. I had the opportunity to give some PaperPrimo a try and I will have to give the Cat my two thumbs up.
I cycled my PaperPrimo with fina and test prop and I feel that with adding the PaperPrimo for weeks 6-10 there was a noticeable difference in water retention, strength, and over all I’m much harder and confident about myself and the new PaperPrimo. If you are looking for legit Primo and another great product produced by the great feline I would suggest giving PaperPrimo a shot ................. it’s a shot worth taking.
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(Female Perspective)
I recently completed a totally paper cycle which included:
20mg/PaperVar per day
20mg/PaperTurin per day
25mg/PaperPrimo per day
2iu HGH per day
I have to say that this kicks ass...... My muscles are as hard as rocks, my strength increases all around were excellent, very little water retention... and I highly recommend the PaperTurin for females, starting dose of 10mg/day max of 20mg/day one can feel very safe I experienced NO sides from the PaperTurin....
Personally I think PaperTurin is an excellent alternative for women...
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All I can say is WOW!
I am just finishing a quick 3 ½-weeker with two squares of PaperPrimo a day and it was the best damn oral cycle I have ever done. LOVED IT! Hard, quality gains in both size and strength, I was rather sloppier than usual with my diet and still kept getting leaner: almost certainly due to the deep, motivated workouts spurred on by my strength gains and by the changes in the mirror.
No water retention noticed at all. Really nice as I tend to hold a bit of water even with the mildest of AAS.
No noticeable hair loss, no problems at all with acne (sometimes Anavar or Winny makes me a bit oily and thereby produces some acne, but NONE at all with the PaperPrimo.
The only complaint about the product is that I didn't buy more, I would have loved to see how things went with an 8-weeker!
Hats off as always to the Cat for a phenomenal product and outstanding service.
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(Female Perspective)
Hi RC,
Just wanted to let you know your PaperPrimo is great. Quantity (ordered) was small and due to such a small quantity I didn't really expect to see much if anything. But even at only 25mg per day for 2 ½ weeks there was a noticeable increase in strength, even muscle hardening was also becoming apparent. No water retention or negative sides were seen. Worked surprisingly fast too.
Your products are of excellent quality and your customer service is second to none.
Thank you
Meeks!
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Greetings
I indeed received my latest order of Paper Product and again in record time. A mere four days to receive product.
I have used several of Redi Cat's paper products and have been very pleased. However, I use Redi Cat products for athletic and conditioning purposes. The body building results are great but as a cameraman my job requires a lot of physical effort and PaperVar and PaperPrimo have given me increased strength and endurance.
Both provide long lasting results and I have been able to maintain gains even when not using the products.
I still find it hard to believe that little squares of paper are so effective but I have had great results over the past year and a half. In addition to top notch service and ease of delivery PaperVar and PaperPrimo are my secret weapon.
Bill, New York City
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Testimony
Redi Cat,
Here's my story.
First of all, I split my order with a friend for two reasons: To lower initial outlay and just to see how I would respond to initial course.
Also I’m an AAS newbie having only done some Androdiol 4 years ago, with good results.
My friend is about to start chewing paper but I have just about finished.
Close enough to inform you of my results.
Enough of the prelude and onto the main course.
Week1:
Start weight 83kg, 15.5 inch u/arms, chest.
I increased my weight 3kgs from a 3 week course.
Nothing dramatic in that regard but it doesn’t tell the whole story.
See I put on 3kg (86kgs) in the first 5 days! I was still on bulking diet....
Visually the change was VERY visible with notice being paid by friends, associates and unfortunately by work superiors......
Week 2:
I went into caloric deficit and added in PaperPrimo with PaperTurin and PaperStrol.
Result at end of week 2 was a net loss of 3kgs (83kgs), but I retained my gains and instead noticed I had lost 2 inches on the waist line with most skin-folds dropping by half.... 10mm on abdomen.
Arms (biceps/triceps) had grown half inch to 16 inches.
Chest became obviously thicker as did lats and traps.
Week 3:
Reinstituted bulking diet and proceeded to put that 3kgs back on as muscle....
In arms from 16 to 16.5 inches.
Performances..... Dips up from 3 sets 6 reps BW with 20kg plate at week1 to BW plus 50kg for 6 reps 3 sets..... Latpull went from 4 reps at 100kg to 5 reps at 110kg, DB Chest press ceased as db's only went to 32.5kg and flat bench doesn’t agree with rotator cuff (subscap).
DB Shoulder press from 27.5kg 6 reps 3 sets, to 32.5kgs 6 reps 4 sets.
Recovery periods down by one third, yes a minute, according to HR monitor.
Dosage
30mg PaperTurin + 10mg PaperStrol (+20mg PaperPrimo week 2+3 only) per workout day
20mg PaperTurin + 20mg PaperStrol (+20mg PaperPrimo week 2+3) per non-workout day
Am I happy, damn right I am........ Huge change in body composition...
Increased hardness, body-fat reduction without cardio!
New PB's to break at almost every workout.
No negative sides......
The only hindrance being giving my joints time to recover.
Next time I’m doing 40mg PaperTurin ED and 20mg PaperStrol EOD. 3-4 weeks
Plan to be 90kgs by Christmas and ripped. Have grown from 72kgs at Jan 2005.
Also recommend ALRI'S Ultra Hotter layered into week 3 onwards of any course. 4 caps ED 2 weeks then 3 per day ‘til finished. Then safely onto next cycle with HPTA and "The BOYS" fully intact !
On a side note my girlfriend is also very happy......
Apparently, the bigger I get.... the smaller she looks (she's 31yo, 52kg, 5'5"....lol)
Also happy with increased sex drive from the PaperTurin..... forgot to mention I’m 40 years old....
Ill let you know how my friend gets on in 3-4 weeks.....
Cheers,
GC
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BTW Powerforward, while you might think I "the man", others may suggest I'm The Cat, but me, I just see myself as a little pussy whose just doing his job - LOL ;^>
Happy to accommodate you if, as and when, all the best for now :^> RC