PGCL

Queefer · Jun 15, 2008

I had a buddy who tried it and said he lost 15 lbs in 4 days so I decided to give it a try, and since it is LEGAL even better. I've been taking it a week and havn't had any weight loss, but I'm definetely getting leaner. Unlike most others, it doesn't make me crap all the time, except once when I ate a really big dinner. I've not gotten any stronger, but my muscles really get pumped and are hardening up. I do feel like it's working. Have any of you guys tried it lately and if so what where the results?

W8killa · Jun 15, 2008

Queefer said:
I had a buddy who tried it and said he lost 15 lbs in 4 days so I decided to give it a try, and since it is LEGAL even better. I've been taking it a week and havn't had any weight loss, but I'm definetely getting leaner. Unlike most others, it doesn't make me crap all the time, except once when I ate a really big dinner. I've not gotten any stronger, but my muscles really get pumped and are hardening up. I do feel like it's working. Have any of you guys tried it lately and if so what where the results?

Are you using it for site inlection fat loss? A buddy of mine was injected it into his gyno and it actually went away! I couldnt believe how much it hardened up his chest. He didnt really get the shits either.

Queefer · Jun 15, 2008

I'm using it to just get leaner. I do think there is something to site injecting it because I've been putting it into my legs and the veins are starting to pop out now. I don't usually eat but once a day, so that may be the reason behind not having to crap so much.

jdchaffin · Jun 15, 2008

W8killa said:
Are you using it for site inlection fat loss? A buddy of mine was injected it into his gyno and it actually went away! I couldnt believe how much it hardened up his chest. He didnt really get the shits either.

I'm interested in info on this as it sounds like a good option from what I've read so far.

MightyJohn · Jun 15, 2008

I was kinda interested in hearing guys methods/dosing/results as well

PATRAINER · Jun 15, 2008

PCGL

HAVE 2 BOXES FOR MONTHS NOW AND BEEN WAITING TO HEAR MORE INPUT. REALLY GOT SCARED WHEN DOING RESEARCH ON IT. ANY PROBLEMS SUCH AS SHORTNESS OF BREATH OR BAD CRAMPING OF STOMACH? WHATS YOUR DOSAGE LEVEL BEEN AND FREQUENCY?

Big Bapper · Jun 15, 2008

Queefer said:
I'm using it to just get leaner. I do think there is something to site injecting it because I've been putting it into my legs and the veins are starting to pop out now. I don't usually eat but once a day, so that may be the reason behind not having to crap so much.

Its mostly due to its diuretic effect, but it does raise body temture. So there could be a fat burning effect. Cant seem to find much information on PCGL and this is just my experence from using it.

Respect.

Queefer · Jun 15, 2008

No shortness of breath or cramping whatsoever. I've been taking 50mcg 3x a day for a week now. If your concerned with sides, just take a small amount each time and bump it up a little here and there.

Queefer · Jun 15, 2008

Big Bapper said:
Its mostly due to its diuretic effect, but it does raise body temture. So there could be a fat burning effect. Cant seem to find much information on PCGL and this is just my experence from using it.

Respect.

Hey BB, did you get any localized growth from it? I've used alot of different stuff and I've never taken anything that I felt started working so fast.

Big Bapper · Jun 15, 2008

Absolutely Bro, however it goes when the product is discontinued.

Big Bapper · Jun 15, 2008

Queefer said:
No shortness of breath or cramping whatsoever. I've been taking 50mcg 3x a day for a week now. If your concerned with sides, just take a small amount each time and bump it up a little here and there.

I got cramping from it, but I was pre-contest so can say for sure. Got the shits that's for sure and a general feeling of unwell.

Ness · Jun 15, 2008

Used it 50 mcg x 3ed.

1. Lost a lot of water, that came back w/ a rebound after I stopped use.
2. Cramping and feeling sick for 30 min. post injection followed by a trip to the shitter. Relief.
3. No loss of strength in gym, but no gains were noticed either.

IMO, a good pre-comp drug to get the last poo and water out of your system. However, there were just too many sides and not enough long term gains, if any, to deal w/ this drug.

Hope everyone else has a better reaction than me, I hated it.

inoverdrive · Jun 15, 2008

Here is some good reading on it.

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vadim_b1 · Jun 15, 2008

Its a diuretic guys
dont expect much more from it
I used it last year when it just came out, dried me out very well.
Use it precontest, otherwise there is no point

I got some in gel form recently, maybe this will turn out more effective for site specific loss

Queefer · Jun 15, 2008

vadim_b1 said:
Its a diuretic guys
dont expect much more from it
I used it last year when it just came out, dried me out very well.
Use it precontest, otherwise there is no point

I got some in gel form recently, maybe this will turn out more effective for site specific loss

I'll have to disagree with you on this one(from my experience). I notice, wherever I shoot it, I seem to be getting leaner. It may be a diuretic, but I'm not losing water because I havn't really lost any weight. I guess your body didn't respond well to it, but I can "feel" it working. I am very curious about the people who have used it on their bitch titties, cause I have a little bit of fat there and I'm considering seeing if it will actually burn it away.

vadim_b1 · Jun 15, 2008

you really think its possible to see SIGNIFICANT fat loss in a week?
step aside DNP who needs that shit

Give me a break bro....

As for not responding to it, on the contrary, i think I responded a little "too well" to it
i was so dehydrated, my eyelids were sticking together and mouth was so dry that i was speaking in a weird way

Queefer · Jun 15, 2008

vadim_b1 said:
you really think its possible to see SIGNIFICANT fat loss in a week?
step aside DNP who needs that shit

Give me a break bro....

As for not responding to it, on the contrary, i think I responded a little "too well" to it
i was so dehydrated, my eyelids were sticking together and mouth was so dry that i was speaking in a weird way

Yes I do think it's possible to get leaner in a week.

pyramid · Jun 16, 2008

I am not sure it is really a diuretic

But no question it causes significant water loss.

It is a smooth muscle contractor. The GI track is smooth muscle. The bro that shot 50mcg 3 times a day experienced what many experience. Profound diarrhea and an offloading of the gut. Thats where you get a loss of water and a loss of calories. The gut gets cleared before all the nutrients are absorbed from the food you took in. do that three times a day and that is a significant reduction of calories depite the fact that you ate what you always do. If you restrict calories the effect would be greater. An interesting aspect is the severe restriction of calories without suffering from restricted intake and hunger pains.

Does not appear to have any size gain that is permenant. does not seem to create the muscle soreness and inflammation associated wit PGF2a.

Here is the kicker. there is a change in receptors that make it so you probably will never recognize any benefit after the first cycle. So save it for a one time cycle, do 50mcg 3 times a day and go about three weeks max.

It also blocks the uptake of acetocholyne ( sp ) so ephedrine will only feel half as stimulating as it usually is.

Now a good alternative is IP's DNP complex which when used in the recommended dosages will get you hot, but because of the inclusion of other ingredients feels to many a little easier to tolerate then straight DNP. It however has been said to taste like insecticide.

This is all subjective but unfortuanately there is not a lot of science on any of these products.