Phil

[slesh]

I’m very much enjoying today’s current line up of open guys. Feels like any of the top 5-7 guys can win the O or Arnold which makes for more drama. But fuck - I don’t think any of them even hold a candle to Phil. Just saw this on IG and it blew my mind. I’ve made comments before that we took him for granted but Jesus lol… I know most consider Ronnie the but I would have liked to see both them line up next to each other in their prime.

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[pistonpump]

I would love to see it too but IMHO Ronnie size would shit on phil

 

[Shelby]

Ronnie would have made him look like a 212

 

[Shelby]

Phil - 5'9, 245-255 onstage
Dorian - 5'10, 260ish onstage
Ronnie - 5'11, 300 onstage

 

[slesh]

Obviously Ronnie much bigger - but Phil’s symmetry and conditioning are tough to beat…

 

[Pheedno]

 

[FK86]

Obviously Ronnie much bigger - but Phil’s symmetry and conditioning are tough to beat…

Ronnie almost always looked better at prejudging. That video of Phil is 2010 ASC prejudging.

 

[w8tlifterty]

I don’t know man… this Ronnie… to me, it’s game the fuck over.

 

[Bio]

That picture of Ronnie is insane! Ronnie for the win!!

 

[3BILLS]

Back then ronnie just made it look so easy.

 

[slesh]

Yeah I guess y’all right - Ronnie is an alien. It’s unfair to compare anyone to him lol.

 

[LATS]

If you ever had the chance to see ronnie up close.. 3 weeks out.. 315 pounds in shape.. its something you can't describe.. now don't get me wrong.. Phil is amazing.. everything is there and big.. but if ronnie stood on stage next to Phil it's lights out phil...

WHY?

well symmetry and flow only go so far when you have THANOS in the flesh next to you.. the shock factor alone takes all eyes off phil.

That being said, ronnie had great flow and symmetry even at 300 pounds.. so it wasn't like he was missing that piece of the equation..

 

[Mr OZ]

at least with prime Ronnie there was never any doubt over who won, we just argued over who should have placed 2nd

 

[slesh]

Lol I just having this discussion

 

[psychor]

Back then ronnie just made it look so easy.

The GOATS in any sport/endeavor always make it look easy...effortless! Jordan in basketball....Federer in tennis....a prime Tiger in golf..they made it look natural and even among their fellow pros, they distance themselves from all competition in as so much that even the casual spectator can observe a difference in talent between the GOATS and their fellow pros.

In bodybuilding there is Ronnie the GOAT and then everyone else!

 

[Bio]

If you ever had the chance to see ronnie up close.. 3 weeks out.. 315 pounds in shape.. its something you can't describe.. now don't get me wrong.. Phil is amazing.. everything is there and big.. but if ronnie stood on stage next to Phil it's lights out phil...

WHY?

well symmetry and flow only go so far when you have THANOS in the flesh next to you.. the shock factor alone takes all eyes off phil.

That being said, ronnie had great flow and symmetry even at 300 pounds.. so it wasn't like he was missing that piece of the equation..

I met Ronnie twice. The first time was before he was Mr. O when he was repping METRx. The second time, I can't remember how many O's he had under his belt then, he was guest posing 6 weeks out from the O weighing 312lbs...just WOW!

 

[BLang]

The GOATS in any sport/endeavor always make it look easy...effortless! Jordan in basketball....Federer in tennis....a prime Tiger in golf..they made it look natural and even among their fellow pros, they distance themselves from all competition in as so much that even the casual spectator can observe a difference in talent between the GOATS and their fellow pros.

In bodybuilding there is Ronnie the GOAT and then everyone else!

I get your point, but Federer isn't exactly a good example; he has losing records against both Nadal and Djokovic.

 

[hawkmoon]

I never liked Phil as a human, but he was blessed with absurd genetics. His jump from turning Pro to Mr. O champion was incredibly fast - and seemingly effortless.

As people have said, Ronnie was blessed with outstanding genetics and outworked everyone. I don't think we will ever see another Ronnie again.

 

[stackdizzy]

Man I have seen Phil in the gym and he is just nuts looking. Like wtf you from earth?? Never seen Ronnie and can't even imagine what he would look like. He must be huge. I think he would clearly beat Phil.

 

[Samson250]

The only Pro I ever met in person was Cutler. I’m 6’4 360 and obviously had hight advantage but I was completely blown away by how wide he was. He looked like he could lay on his side and still be 5’9/5’10.

That’s when I realized I didn’t have the structure to compete. To dam tall. He also ate pre prepared chicken constantly from Tupperware. Eat-Eat-Eat repeat.

I admire Luki and other tall body builders. It’s just so much harder for the tall guys.