Ehhhh 10 years ago, maybe a bit more you had the original Jack3d which was potent. A lot of other off label pre workouts with DMAA which was banned.Soooooo what you’re saying then is the ingredients have changed then….. I see. Man, preworkouts have alllll the same shit and have had allll the same shit forever.
Cage
Either way I don’t mind a new pre workout thread. That other one has like 3000 responses.