Hey Tp4U ...................I am glad that I could provide you with some laughs .........it shows your maturity .........If anyone should be listening to what is being said here it is You !!!......Maybe , if you quit acting like a jackoff and realized the message that Phil [ T,and I ]were trying to send here, maybe you would see that those lessons should be applied to you more so than Jess or Peter ......[ at least they will taste some high level of success and good for them] ......And take your nose back out Vander ass......it is clear what he really thinks of you from when you guys had your little beef .....[ am I lying ? Down deep you know he thinks your a tool ] As far knocking people out at shows over the years .....two were competitive national level guys that thought that they could show disrespect from a distance , but when they got beat down they thought different ........bodybuilders often think being Big and strong translates into fighting success ........and quite often it leads to thier demise on the street ............When I fought ....I trained with some of the best in boxing , kick boxing , and MMA and more than held my own............shoot ....had I not been stabbed in my eye in NY , then things would have been different as far were my place in the fight game went [ I know talk is cheap ...lol ..I am nobody which I can live with ].........Ivan , can say the same thing , he has a ton of MMA potentail , but an inccident left him shying away from the sport .... Ivan , is just like me ......we like everyone and are polite , but if you act like a bad ass or are disrespectful ......we will step up at anytime no matter where it is .[ and yes , it gets us into trouble at times ] Anyone , can win a fight at anytime , and yes there are plenty of guys around that could beat my ass , but I treat people well and I expect the same in return .......when I dont get it I am willing to call someones Bluff anyday .....Sometimes ......people only learn from being beat down ........MAybe some day we can meet ......and I can give you an education.......Not everybody is a joke my friend ......maybe you need alittle help understandin this I dont even really care for this tough guy crap , it is just I dont shy away or let disrespect fly like most ...........I have bitten my tougue quite abit when it comes to you over your time on this board . I realize you are very driven and focused , and you seem like a decent guy , but don't act like you are somebody that can pop off to me or anyone else here .........because bro , we have all seen your wrestling clip , and your little pics , you not someone in a position to ever pop off to me .. I promise you that ...So go back to what you to best kiss ass and ask over complicated questions .........now sit in the corner little boy !!!