Question about Humalin-R vs Humalog

[Gunsmith]

I know that humalin-r is active for much longer than the humalog and some guys do not like it for this reason.

My question is shoulden't the longer acting R work better as its active and shutteling more to the muscle for a longer time. It seems to me that it would be more benificial to muscle growth than the faster acting stuff , and you wuld be able to use less of it

I know that your diet would have to be realy clean for 4-5 hrs after the shot using the Humalin -R but if you could controle that shoulden't you get more bacng for the buck?

just reading up on it and that thought came to mind and coulden't find any solid answers

 

[Johnny Smiles]

in my opinion...

I know that humalin-r is active for much longer than the humalog and some guys do not like it for this reason.

My question is shoulden't the longer acting R work better as its active and shutteling more to the muscle for a longer time. It seems to me that it would be more benificial to muscle growth than the faster acting stuff , and you wuld be able to use less of it

I know that your diet would have to be realy clean for 4-5 hrs after the shot using the Humalin -R but if you could controle that shoulden't you get more bacng for the buck?

just reading up on it and that thought came to mind and coulden't find any solid answers

this is correct. -JS

 

[Ness]

this is correct. -JS

X2..Hum R is the way to go.

 

[Wolfpack]

no you want the slin to go in and get out... its very lipogenic and the carb/protein/fats that your body doesnt use right away gets converted to fats. humalog is king. plus you cant do shit while slin is active your system... meaning no cardio, lifting or whatever....and you gotta to constantly monitor your blood sugar.

That's not entirely true. The carbs/protein/fats that don't get used right away get converted to fat? Is that a fact? I mean, how do you know whether to eat 35, 40, or 45 grams of protein and not have worry about it being "converted" to fat if your body doesn't use it? Explain that.

And trust me, there are plenty of people training while slin is active in their system. And I'm guessing about 90% of bodybuilders are not "constantly" monitoring their blood sugar when using slin.

There is so much internet hear-say and opinion stated as fact on insulin it's ridiculous.

 

[brother_iron]

There is so much internet hear-say and opinion stated as fact on insulin it's ridiculous.

Agreed 100%, unless you're using right after training humulinr is the way to go. Much more of an anabolic effect w/ its shutteling properties being elongated throughout the day and multiple meals.

I don't monitor my blood sugar, I can however feel if I am going to go hypo long before there is any danger, comes w/ extended use of it. You get to know you're body very well while using it.

 

[Downtowncb84]

hmmm, i know a few experienced slin users and they train right after pinning they're humulog, its a very nice protocol. It seems to be working well for them since they've been dominating on stage.

 

[Big A]

Hum-R wins hands down over Log for numerous reasons, including safety.

 

[Gunsmith]

I'm thinking about giving slin a try at low dose just to see what the hype is all about.

i finish training at 5:30 pm and thats what has me concerned as i sleep at 9:30 or 10 , i'm sure that by this time i'll have consumed plenty of carbs to keep me safe.

i've heard of some guys pinning the humalin-R right before they train and drink their shake through the workout , supposedly they get great results

 

[pesty4077]

Hum-R wins hands down over Log for numerous reasons, including safety.

Can you explain why.

 

[musicmann89]

Hum-R wins hands down over Log for numerous reasons, including safety.

x2

 

[Gunsmith]

Hum-R wins hands down over Log for numerous reasons, including safety.

i was hoping you would chime in

 

[brother_iron]

I'm thinking about giving slin a try at low dose just to see what the hype is all about.

i finish training at 5:30 pm and thats what has me concerned as i sleep at 9:30 or 10 , i'm sure that by this time i'll have consumed plenty of carbs to keep me safe.

i've heard of some guys pinning the humalin-R right before they train and drink their shake through the workout , supposedly they get great results

I take a serious mass shake + 2 scoops of whey when I first pin then again 2 hours later... Even with just the first shake I can drink that take my slin and go to bed and I am fine, I will however get the sweats but thats it.

The guy saying all you can do is sit on you're ass is either misinformed, has had a bad experience, or has a very low slin tolerance.

 

[wukillabee]

Hum-R wins hands down over Log for numerous reasons, including safety.

Also curious as to why???

 

[Downtowncb84]

The guys i know who use log pre workout ( Milos Protocol ), one is a bigger guy 315ish he uses 20ui, and the other is 275ish and he uses 12ui's.

I have always heard that log was the safer one because it acts like the bodies natural insulin, it spikes quickly and then is done in 4 hours. Where humulin R spikes twice and last for 6ish depending on the person.

 

[brother_iron]

The guys i know who use log pre workout ( Milos Protocol ), one is a bigger guy 315ish he uses 20ui, and the other is 275ish and he uses 12ui's.

I have always heard that log was the safer one because it acts like the bodies natural insulin, it spikes quickly and then is done in 4 hours. Where humulin R spikes twice and last for 6ish depending on the person.

In my opinion why is the slower onset, can sort of guage you're reaction a bit better.

 

[duke123]

I am also curious to read why r is better than log?I am currently pinning log after weight training,before 30 minutes if cardio.As soon as i am finished with the cardio i drink a carb and protien drink.Then go home and have a meal with protien and carbs.low to no fat.Then i eat as normal after and feel fine.With r i would do a similar protocol but 4 or 5 hours later i would get that hypo feeling again and have to keep some carbs handy.I felt it was more restrictive on the rest of my day after training.With that said if there was some solid evidence that r was better than log i would go with the either.ANy help would be appreciated!!

 

[auspex]

Humalog

The time to peak and the duration of action of human insulin preparations (regular insulin) do not replicate endogenous insulin secretion. Thus, insulin analogs (lispro, aspart ie Humalog/Novolog) were developed with the goal of more nearly replicating endogenous insulin secretion.
Could someone elaborate on the advantages of Regular insulin over Humalog(besides safety as already discussed)?? If safety is the only factor, and you are taking adequate safety measures(glucometer, glucose source, etc.) then Humalog seems to be the better option. This based upon it being more similar to the body's natural insulin curve.
Perhaps in bodybuilding you want insulin to remain longer in the body?? Pre-workout injection which lasts through and after workout to maintain an anabolic environment?? Post-workout use would seem to favor Humalog then.

The post above me is interesting...............could someone please translate what algonnaRoaddy said?

 

[Big A]

R gives more results for reasons as mentioned earlier in the thread. It won't get you fatter if you control your diet like you should anyway.
2nd peak happens 2 to 2.5hours later. EVERYTHING that you eat during that meal, especially if you drag out the hypo (DON'T do this unless you truly know your body and how you react!).

Also, R is more controllable since the action times are very manageble. I've seen plenty of Log experiences where it kicked in too quick at the doses required for proper muscle growth (12IU+) and the people passed out.

And one should be using metformin on the non insulin days so there is no insulin resistance.

Anyway, it's all mute if GH is not used. Insulin by itself (any kind) seems to just fill up the muscles temporarily and nothing more. Used together with GH though, everyone blows up with permanent size.

 

[auspex]

R gives more results for reasons as mentioned earlier in the thread. It won't get you fatter if you control your diet like you should anyway.
2nd peak happens 2 to 2.5hours later. EVERYTHING that you eat during that meal, especially if you drag out the hypo (DON'T do this unless you truly know your body and how you react!).

Also, R is more controllable since the action times are very manageble. I've seen plenty of Log experiences where it kicked in too quick at the doses required for proper muscle growth (12IU+) and the people passed out.

And one should be using metformin on the non insulin days so there is no insulin resistance.

Anyway, it's all mute if GH is not used. Insulin by itself (any kind) seems to just fill up the muscles temporarily and nothing more. Used together with GH though, everyone blows up with permanent size.

EVERYTHING that you eat during that meal, especially if you drag out the hypo

Big A,

Is there more to this sentence?? Everthing that you eat during that meal..........???

Excellent post and explanation

 

[eccentric]

I was one of those people who landed in the ER from Log use... Hum-R is so mild. Log hit me so hard and quick I couldn't choke down enough quick carbs to control it. Hum-R if I feel something coming on... a handful of sweet tarts or nerds controls it.