Quick shout out to Phil and EFX

[HellRazor]

I recently had a situation that went bad on me and I would like to say Thank You to PHIL and the guys at EFX for getting the situation taken care of and making it right. There are a lot of people and companies out there that are quick to rip you off but these 2 were top notch in my book, and for that I give props.

Thanks again guys
Hellrazor

 

[Golgo13]

I was seriously skeptical about the Liquid Beef Aminos, but Phil was right, they really are awesome. Completely worth the price.

 

[oldfella]

You will not find anyone else out there with as much integrity as Phil or his products. He is a true professional in every sense. LBA's are the best supplement going now!!

 

[goonstopher]

I dont want to start a convo that will get me chastized since I am just a new guy here but the whole retoric of "you just have to try it and see" is VERY hard to buy into because of the price of these. I'll be honest I will try anything (ask Jayuk, I jumped right into his low carb diet) but these are pricey and there is no logical reason or science behind why they work so well. I wish I could convince myself to make the investment but without one single logical reason besides bro-telligence, it is just hard...

 

[HellRazor]

My post was not even trying to get into the product itself, but to thank this company and individual for making a bad situation into a good one. I just wanted to say they are people of integrity.

 

[oldfella]

I dont want to start a convo that will get me chastized since I am just a new guy here but the whole retoric of "you just have to try it and see" is VERY hard to buy into because of the price of these. I'll be honest I will try anything (ask Jayuk, I jumped right into his low carb diet) but these are pricey and there is no logical reason or science behind why they work so well. I wish I could convince myself to make the investment but without one single logical reason besides bro-telligence, it is just hard...

There is science behind the magic. The company that makes these has a patented process for extracting the aminos from beef plasma. The actual step that makes these so potent and effective is a secret to only the manufacturer. it's called Proprietary Information. You don't have to use these, that's fine. But I would not be so bold as to call this "BRO-TELLIGENCE". Most of us on here are serious veterans of this game. We have tried all of the crap out there. I will speak only for myself here. I have 34 years of lifting experience and over 12 years of contest experience. To call real life results "BRO-TELLIGENCE" does get up my nose a little. I'm not chastising or ball busting here, but I would be willing to bet there are a few more of us veterans out there that feel the same way. Like I said, you do not have to use these, but I and many of us on here know what the heads up on this product is all about. It has Nothing to do with "BRO-TELLIGENCE". But if you think they are expensive here is a clue........Do away with almost all of the other supps you are using and just use these..........15.00 a bottle is not much. I would bet that you will save money in the long run. That's right do away with almost all your other supps!!! Big savings right there. This is what I have done and have never been happier with my results!! Why not try them? I am as big probably bigger sceptic than you, but I will not be without LBA's ever again. No I am not a rep for these, nor do I get any special discounts for plugging this awesome product. It actually costs me more than you guys by a long shot, I will continue to spend the most well spent dollars on these. FYI I'm 48, 6' tall and weigh 270.

 

[oldfella]

My post was not even trying to get into the product itself, but to thank this company and individual for making a bad situation into a good one. I just wanted to say they are people of integrity.

 

[goonstopher]

I do not doubt their integrity one bit so lets get that straight. I do not know Phil eccept that he is GREAT at what he does and runs a good company. I would never doubt him. I only ask what everyone does: Why are these aminos so much better than other protein or BCAA ect?

The only Supps I take are BCAA, things for health like EFA's and milk thistle and Cissus for joints so besides BCAA there is nothing to eliminate.

 

[1badboy]

I do not doubt their integrity one bit so lets get that straight. I do not know Phil eccept that he is GREAT at what he does and runs a good company. I would never doubt him. I only ask what everyone does: Why are these aminos so much better than other protein or BCAA ect?

The only Supps I take are BCAA, things for health like EFA's and milk thistle and Cissus for joints so besides BCAA there is nothing to eliminate.

First, Phil doesn't really run a "company" but provides a service to us PM members- he sells the LBAs for cheaper than a major on-line sup company. And he has other products that he has determned to be "the best" and will sell them too, but he does not "push" them on anyone.

Second, you do not take any protein in the form of shakes, etc? That seems strange, but I am saving a lot of time, money, and aggrivation from not cranking up the blender 4 times or so a day, washing it, etc. $8.00 / day (half bottle) is very economical to me considering my blender is not used anymore.

Hey, don't buy them- then Phil will be less likely to run into "out of stock" situations. But I really think you are doing yourself a disservice by not trying at least 8 bottles (for 16 days).

Please understand, no disrespect to you, goonstopher, I am just a happy convert to LBAs for a number of reasons, and Phil is the best source for them, IMO.

 

[oldfella]

I do not doubt their integrity one bit so lets get that straight. I do not know Phil eccept that he is GREAT at what he does and runs a good company. I would never doubt him. I only ask what everyone does: Why are these aminos so much better than other protein or BCAA ect?
The only Supps I take are BCAA, things for health like EFA's and milk thistle and Cissus for joints so besides BCAA there is nothing to eliminate.

Well to try and answer the question, it has to do with the way they are absorbed by the body. It happens fast, fsater than anything I have ever tried. They are Aminos from the beef family of proteins and not dairy, so different type of aminos and profile. Also the way they react in our system. Because there is no need for digestion they hit the system intact, no breakdown. It is also the specific combination and quantities that work the way they do. It will raise your IGF levels! I hope you took no disrespect in my post as none was directed. I myself do not just do things because everyone else is! I'm usually the last one in the pool! LOL, but like others have suggested, get a months supply and try them. if they do not set well with you I can promise you your money would not have been wasted at all. But I would be willing to bet you will keep using them. We are all here to help each other and further our knowledge of training and nutrition. Cheers Bro!

 

[skookum]

I can appreciate your hesitation and scepticism regarding "all the hype" over the LBA's. I watched and read threads about them for months before finally deciding that these were the real deal and worthy of the money.
So, I placed an order and recieved my 1st case of LBA's last Saturday. I have been using 1/2 bottle per day since Monday - 5 days.
I shit you not - in five days I have lines and veins revealing themselves. I am obviously losing fat & water stores BUT my bodyweight has not wavered from 233 (bear in mind, I'm 5'6" and 40 yrs old). Of all the supplements and powders that I have consumed (most of them crap), THE LBA's ARE THE REAL DEAL. I am rather excited about this and am eager to experience the prolonged results.

skookum

 

[goonstopher]

First thing I want to do is appologize if I misunderstood the service Phil provides.

Second, I will read more threads on them and consider it for PCT...

I will admit I remember a few years ago reading in muscle magazines that pro's were clamins BCAA to be the most beneficial supplement out there while everyone else laughed at the idea. Now a few years later we are all acting like BCAA are a stable Supp for workout timing or post workout. Guess time will tell with everything.

the only thing I will say is that for the same or LESS money you could run Gavin's 3x per week GH protocol...

 

[1badboy]

First thing I want to do is appologize if I misunderstood the service Phil provides.

Second, I will read more threads on them and consider it for PCT...

I will admit I remember a few years ago reading in muscle magazines that pro's were clamins BCAA to be the most beneficial supplement out there while everyone else laughed at the idea. Now a few years later we are all acting like BCAA are a stable Supp for workout timing or post workout. Guess time will tell with everything.

the only thing I will say is that for the same or LESS money you could run Gavin's 3x per week GH protocol...

You seem like you are a very thoughtful, logical guy (but I can't understand why you care what they say in "muscle mags"- they have a huge reason to print articles that support their advertisers)

I respect GK a lot and he has many protocols that are a little "unorthodox" (stacking abombs and dball for example). No one is saying replace HGH with LBAs. What I am saying is that, IMO, you can replace many of your supplements with the LBAs. LBAs are not AAS and not HGH; they may or may not increase IGF, but I'd just take IGF-LR3 for PCT AND LBAs (with usual ancillaries).

Again, just my opinion and I respect your opinion. I hope you try them and tell us what YOU think. Give them a fair try though (at least 2 weeks).

 

[maldorf]

I have used over 1 case of them now, 12 bottles, and very pleased with the results. It really does seem like one 4 tablespoon serving is more effective than a double or triple serving of whey protein. You really do "feel" the stuff working. Some on here have said they feel like their body temp goes up a bit and they feel energized, I feel that somewhat myself. LBAs have helped me quite a bit I would say. I was skeptic at first too, but glad I gave them a try. Buy some bottles and give it a test.

 

[goonstopher]

Most of you guys are well more developed than myself and I can respect that. Thank you for being tolerant of my skepticism of what is a majorly backed product on this board. If I had the funds to try I would, and one day hopefully I will but for those of us who watch every dollar it is much easier to be a skeptic.

 

[maldorf]

Most of you guys are well more developed than myself and I can respect that. Thank you for being tolerant of my skepticism of what is a majorly backed product on this board. If I had the funds to try I would, and one day hopefully I will but for those of us who watch every dollar it is much easier to be a skeptic.

If you consider that many of us just use 1/2 bottle a day, thats just $7.50 per day. Hell, I cant eat a meal out for that much. I would spend more than that eating fast food. If youre doing something like eating out once a day at work, just redirect your spending and pack your lunch. There is always a way to find room for $7 per day in your budget.

 

[stupidman]

too much talking

i use lba,s and i think they work very good.
but why all that talking ? use them, like them or not.
ronnie and jay maybe never use them and are the best. you see you can be good with them or without them.

 

[JustWannaBeHuge]

If you consider that many of us just use 1/2 bottle a day, thats just $7.50 per day. Hell, I cant eat a meal out for that much. I would spend more than that eating fast food. If youre doing something like eating out once a day at work, just redirect your spending and pack your lunch. There is always a way to find room for $7 per day in your budget.

exactly and that is the point that I was trying to make with my brother.

dude, I'll be 100% honest here and I mean no disrespect to Phil when I say this. Last october he was helping me out and I asked him about the LBAs, well he told me about them and you know what I did? I honestly thought "oh boy, a marketing pitch" I didnt buy them, I waited almost an entire year before I started using them. At first I only used about 9 tbs a day (which gave good results), but when I started with the half a bottle. In 1 week, my bench went up 15 pounds, deadlift 25 lbs, squat 20 lbs (along with the other increase for other exercises, but I'm pointing out the main 3)

To say that I am happy with the results is an understatement. I know for me personally, I'll find a way to always get these into my diet no matter what else I need to cut back on.

I'm thankful that a few guys I talked to on here gave me their experiences with it and I decided to try it out myself. Still kicking myself in the ass for waiting so long though, but it was prolly for the best as my personal life was a bit stupid so I would have prolly of wasted them at that point.

I say try 1 case, if you don't have the same experience as other guys on here, then chalk it up as a bad experience, but I'm willing to bet you'll love them as much as everyone else and you'll get the same type of results.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Here is my take

I am trying to help you guys get an affordable muscle building product. Take it or leave it. Who cares if Jay or Ronnie are on it? My father used to tell me " No good deed goes unpunished" , hahahahaahahaa.

 

[goonstopher]

I am trying to help you guys get an affordable muscle building product. Take it or leave it. Who cares if Jay or Ronnie are on it? My father used to tell me " No good deed goes unpunished" , hahahahaahahaa.

Man phil you're 100000 times more advanced in this sport and community than I will ever be or could ever hope to be. I just hope you understand that I never questioned you and really its the fault of companies like muscletech that we as consumers are forced to be super sceptics.