Roid Rage Issues?

[littlemack]

Hey Everyone,
I was talking to someone recently who is an ex-gf to a friend of mine that used to compete and use juice. She was telling me that he couldn't handle his roid rages and used to beat her and throw her across the room and shit. I don't know how much gear my buddy was taking, but he was sticking himself everyday and he said something like he spent $2k + on his cycle. Either he was lying or he's an idiot. Anyway, I told her he was an ignorant $%&# and didn't know what the hell he was doing. He was competing at a state level and not very good at that. hahaha. What is your guys take on this? She left the guy of course. Do people get that out of control? Maybe it was from overdosing on his cycle or just lack of maturity?
Thanks!

 

[dragonfire101]

Do people get that out of control?

Well with adults they usually try to find reasons to blame their actions on others or other factors because they cannot take responsibility for their own actions or have not learned to do so.

 

[dragonfire101]

The Roid Rage thing I guess can be explained biologically even prior to being concieved from high androgen levels, but appears to be refuted by the Social Learning Theory.

Biological basis of aggressive behavior
Exposure to elevated androgen concentrations in the womb has been link to increased aggressiveness in adulthood in both lab mice (vom Saal & Bronson, 1980; Ryan & Vandenbergh, 2002) and humans (Reinisch, 1977; Reinisch, 1981; Berenbaum & Reinisch, 1997).
Enhanced levels of aggression in male mice and monkeys have been associated with the hormone monoamine oxidase A, MAO-A. However, studies in macaque and humans showed that its negative effects can usually be mitigated by parenting. Which would be Social Learning Theory

"Human aggression is a learned conduct that, like other forms of social behavior, is under stimulus, reinforcement, and cognitive control." (Bandura, Albert and Walters, 1963, 1980)


Not using physical disciplne on children and an alternative punishment and ignoring a child’s aggressive outburst to show such behavior will not result in a response would be examples of not teaching children to learn agresion.

 

[dragonfire101]

Now whether or not androgens can exacerbate pre-existing psychiatric/ psychological conditions may be the question to ask.

 

[superman21]

I believe that it has to do with the persons attitude and the gear. There is no excuse to roid rage, if you are feeling that aggressive then the dosage needs to be decreased. If you cant control yourself then dont get on the juice. just my .02 cents

 

[OuchThatHurts]

Now whether or not androgens can exacerbate pre-existing psychiatric/ psychological conditions may be the question to ask.

This is precisely the question to ask and the answer is almost certainly yes. Someone with anger issues cannot control their outbursts. If they have more outbursts, it stands to reason that they will go into a rage more often since they couldn't and can't control their anger before, during, or after taking large doses of androgens.

 

[Braven]

In my opinion roid rage is just an excuse for some guys being tossers, yes you may become slightly more agressive when on cycle but how that effects you is based upon your personality. I have OCD and have obsessional thoughts about killing my wife, my family etc. but when im on gear i can control my agression and keep it for the gym. Maybe that's cos im used to controling very extreme thoughts or maybe it's just cos i would never intentionally do anything to hurt my woman. But i have a friend (more of aquaintence) who is 'normal' and when he's on juice he always beats his woman...now is this the gear or is it just his true personality coming out now that he has an 'excuse'.

But the above is just opinion

 

[healthfreak79]

Heres the best way ive ever heard this explained.

If your a asshole before steroids your a bigger asshole on steroids. Some guys have anger issues.

No offence is ment by this post

 

[JustWannaBeHuge]

Heres the best way ive ever heard this explained.

If your a asshole before steroids your a bigger asshole on steroids. Some guys have anger issues.

No offence is ment by this post

I agree 100% with this post. I have taken as much as 3grams of test a week, and used 750 tren, with dbol set up about 50-75 mg a day. Did I get more edgy? I'll be honest, yea I did. Did i smack a woman and throw her across the room? Hell no. Did I beat my daughter with a beat for not listening to me? Nope.

If someone is mentally unstable, then they shouldn't even come close to juice IMO. I would strongly advise against anyone being bi-polar to use. If someone is in a normal frame of mind, ie., able to control their temper and temptations, then I see nothing wrong with using it.

I have yet to see someone who was a nice normal guy before juice turn into an asshole while on juice. But I have seen plenty of assholes before juice, only to turn into bigger stronger assholes after they begin to use.

No steroids in the world will turn someone into a wife beater if he wasn't already a fuckin asshole that beats women to begin with.

It's that simple.

 

[JETHRO TULL]

Yes...that's been my experience.

Heres the best way ive ever heard this explained.

If your a asshole before steroids your a bigger asshole on steroids. Some guys have anger issues.

No offence is ment by this post

There are tons of assholes out there in this world. Some of them even take steroids.

I've never had a "ROID RAGE". In fact, I am usually happier when I am bigger and stronger. What is there to be pissed about? lol.

 

[OuchThatHurts]

There are tons of assholes out there in this world. Some of them even take steroids.

I've never had a "ROID RAGE". In fact, I am usually happier when I am bigger and stronger. What is there to be pissed about? lol.

You're just a big teddy bear JT! At your size, you could easily be one of those guys scoping out scene and look for trouble but you don't.

One of the reasons I love your dumb ass!

Someday I hope you and mer, and my girl and I can hook up at a show or just a visit. I have to get away!

 

[JETHRO TULL]

Right back atcha, Ouch!

I am going to make sure I am pretty before you come out though. I saw those leaned out pics of you and the lady. I don't want you messing with my mojo, man!

Wait until I post pics of my mustache, I am positively shagadelic! MY MANLINESS WILL FORCE PROMUSCLE MEMBERS INTO A STATE OF FRENZIED ROID RAGINESS! :sp:rt-smi


[That flipping Edge tripped something in my brain with all his mustache baloney. That Vanderstache thing and the Pirate on Bulldog21 was hilarious.]

 

[OuchThatHurts]

I am going to make sure I am pretty before you come out though. I saw those leaned out pics of you and the lady. I don't want you messing with my mojo, man!

Wait until I post pics of my mustache, I am positively shagadelic! MY MANLINESS WILL FORCE PROMUSCLE MEMBERS INTO A STATE OF FRENZIED ROID RAGINESS! :sp:rt-smi


[That flipping Edge tripped something in my brain with all his mustache baloney. That Vanderstache thing and the Pirate on Bulldog21 was hilarious.]

Isn't she hot??? I can't believe I snagged her. We went to dinner the other night and she wore this little black dress and not a guy in place could keep their eyes off her. I might as well been the elephant man. My heart still beats fast with her even after all this time. I'm out of my league! Kaiser's wife thinks I need to grow back the goatee.

 

[OuchThatHurts]

I am going to make sure I am pretty before you come out though. I saw those leaned out pics of you and the lady. I don't want you messing with my mojo, man!

Wait until I post pics of my mustache, I am positively shagadelic! MY MANLINESS WILL FORCE PROMUSCLE MEMBERS INTO A STATE OF FRENZIED ROID RAGINESS! :sp:rt-smi


[That flipping Edge tripped something in my brain with all his mustache baloney. That Vanderstache thing and the Pirate on Bulldog21 was hilarious.]

what mustache baloney? I missed it! where?

 

[JETHRO TULL]

Isn't she hot??? I can't believe I snagged her. We went to dinner the other night and she wore this little black dress and not a guy in place could keep their eyes off her. I might as well been the elephant man. My heart still beats fast with her even after all this time. I'm out of my league! Kaiser's wife thinks I need to grow back the goatee.

LOL, SHE IS HOT...YES! HOW NICE FOR YOU TO ENJOY THAT FEELING.....THAT MAKES ME HAPPY FOR YOU.

AT LEAST YOU CAN TAKE YOURS OUT TO DINNER....MINE EATS SO MUCH I'D HAVE TO WASH DISHES JUST TO PAY THE BILL!

IF YOU GET TIME, GO TO THE PHOTO SECTION...I MADE A THREAD ABOUT FOREARMS....AND IT GOT PRETTY DARN FUNNY...SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY EDGE GOT ALL GOOFY AND "ALTERED" A FEW OF THE MEMBERS PHOTOS ON THE THREAD. VICTIMS INCLUDED BULLDOG21, VANDER, MYSELF, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHO ELSE.

ANYWAY, I'VE TAKEN IT UPON MYSELF TO GROW SOMETHING...MY FACIAL HAIR IS PATHETIC! LOL.

 

[K1]

There are tons of assholes out there in this world. Some of them even take steroids.

I've never had a "ROID RAGE". In fact, I am usually happier when I am bigger and stronger. What is there to be pissed about? lol.

Once again, we agree bro (as always)!! It seems that people want to use any reasoning they can to back their already shitty attitudes!! I also find myself in a better mood when on!!

 

[marooned]

Not to compare AAS with Alcohol but have you noticed that when you are out drinking some guys get mean and just can't handle drinking. Some guys relax have fun and don't have any problem with it. What I am comparing is not the substance but the persons using them. Would be great if some personal growth and maturity was required before using AAS but thats notthe case. If you can't handle your emotions and agression before using any substance you won't be able to handle them while using. Not the fault of the substance but is an indicator the person should not use anything until understanding and regulating themselves. IMO