Subpoena's at the Arnold?

[BigJohnBoy]

Anyone else hear the rumor of subpoena's being handed out to some of the contestants at the Arnold this year? Looks like the HEAT is on bro's. I knew with all the recent media attention in regards to gear that the govt would be doing SOMETHING to show they were busting people or trying to show that they have some sort of 'control'. Maybe one of you bro's out in Ohio that was at the show can shed some light.

 

[Chewy Bagel]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050306/ap_on_re_us/arnold_classic

Schwarzenegger Urges Steroid Crackdown

By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer

COLUMBUS, Ohio - California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites) said Saturday he has urged bodybuilding officials to crack down on steroid use and suggested calling a summit of the sport's leaders to discuss the problem.

Schwarzenegger, who admits using steroids on the way to seven Mr. Olympia titles, also said he would put pressure on two bodybuilding magazines where he is executive editor to become involved in the effort.

"We have to step up the testing procedures, and find other ways, and be more aggressive with it," Schwarzenegger said at the Arnold Classic, the annual bodybuilding contest that bears his name.

He said he suggested the summit and discussed the problem earlier Saturday with editors at the magazines Flex and Muscle & Fitness, as well as officials of the International Federation of Bodybuilding.

"Let's talk again about it and really think what else could we do," Schwarzenegger said.

Schwarzenegger also recommended changing the way bodybuilding is judged so that demonstration and display count more than muscle size.

Experts on bodybuilding and steroids say steroid use is common among elite bodybuilders. Athletes are not tested at events, and experts say the IFBB's random testing is inadequate and ineffective.

Last year, Schwarzenegger vetoed a bill that would have created a list of banned substances for interscholastic sports and required coaches to take a course on performance-enhancing supplements because he said it was too vague in defining supplements.

Schwarzenegger reiterated Saturday that he would sign a bill that made sense, but also suggested no new laws are needed.

"It has nothing to do with that we don't have enough laws, because we already have a very solid and sound law that says you're not allowed to take illegal drugs," the Republican governor said.

Democrats have criticized the governor for sending mixed signals about steroids. While saying he opposes drug use now, Schwarzenegger also said in a recent television interview that he does not regret using steroids in the 1970s because they were not illegal then.

Other critics have said his continued attendance at the Arnold Classic, where some of the athletes may be on steroids, sends the wrong message.

At least one bodybuilder in this year's competition has admitted using steroids; another spent time in jail for a steroid-related offense. Last year, federal agents investigating steroids served grand jury subpoenas at the Arnold Classic.

The Arnold Fitness Weekend began as a bodybuilding contest but now includes 20 different sports, with 14,000 athletes competing this weekend. It is expected to draw 100,000 visitors this year.

The centerpiece event remains the Arnold Classic bodybuilding contest, in which Schwarzenegger maintains an undisclosed financial stake. He helped found the event in 1989.

 

[Pissbrainiac259]

hypocritical if you ask me.

 

[btmagnus]

Yes it is, but the difference is that then it was legal, now it is illegal.

 

[Pissbrainiac259]

why don't they spend their time/money/effort on something more worthwhile....say the crack, cocaine, X dealers.

 

[worldspan]

I was at last night's contest where Arnold in his "speech" brought up "drugs" in bodybuilding. He got a big zero response from the audience!

Arnold has now become, like most politicians, "politically correct"!!

Worldspan

 

[Tom]

outright lie

even at the time arnold was using steroids it was still illegal but not much more than a misdemeanor. times have changed ....obviously politics have not.

 

[stackdizzy]

If bodybuilding competitions are judged more on demonstration and display it would totally ruin the sport. It would just be judged on a bunch of pansy's dancing around. The winner would be the guy that promisis to take it in the ass for all the judges the whole year. There would be so much more competition and physiques would all look the same. Arnold should be sticking up for steriods not telling everyone what they want to hear. I shouldn't be locked up for taking steriods, maybe for selling them but for taking them hmmmmm...no

I wanna move to mexico. Its a third world country yet so far advance compared to the u.s.

 

[Ivan]

Actually

Yes it is, but the difference is that then it was legal, now it is illegal.

Anabolic Steroids were never "legal" --- they just were not controlled, or a controlled substance (schedule III) In (I believe) 1990 the anabolics steroids control act was passed.

 

[stackdizzy]

I really don't buy that justification that steriods were legal so its alright to take them anyway. That basically says to all other athletes in other countries where steriods are legal is that its okay to take them becuase its legal in your country. The only thing making steriods illegal does is put more harm to the people who do choose to use them,(underground, bootleg gear) and few people are not going to use them becuase there illegal. Not saying that all bootleg gear is bad but its out there! Anyway if arnold were to come out and say hey these are great products that have many uses we just need to keep it out of the hands of high school kids and keep them in the hands of people who use them resposibly. THATS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. That will never happen becuase all polititions care about is popular opionions. Also few people want to publically anounce that they use steriods for fear of cheating acusations and legal issues. Plus if bodybuilders came out it would just push us further into the corner that we are already in. So basically the only thing you can do is run and hide. What more poeple need to do is stick up for nutritional supplements becuase sooner or later they are going to come after them. I am guessing its going to be sooner. Becuase a tub a protein is a killer, well its either that or the medical comunity can make so much money from prescriptions of supplements. Also on a bigger picture it will keep the rich who can afford lots of doc visits nice and heathly and the poor people dead! Hey thats a good way to help social security is just try to kill of the poor people at a young age!!! Just my 2 cents

 

[MrJuiceHead]

guys.....he has to say BS like that.



he personally could probally give 2 shits eather way

 

[gooey]

exactly

guys.....he has to say BS like that.



he personally could probally give 2 shits eather way

no one really knows unless u r a close friend or confidant of his, he is a politician now he has to say things and be careful, he cannot just voice his opinion without it affecting the rest of his term as a gov. He did say that he does not regret his past, and would not take that back. And Im sure in a perfect world he may say fuck it and let BBing be BBing, but this is not a perfect world. In these times he has to say things very careful and make many people happy not just the people associated with BBing. I like others believe there are other things that have clearly a higher level of importance, like the war in Iraq, and other homefront issues, but this isuue had a nice neon light over it and it will till something else bigger and better comes along or a high profile person speaks in a non biased way and gives the public different side of the fence so to speak, something different then the same ol same ol. But we can al wish in one hand and crap n the other and see which one fils first
gooey

 

[johnnyboy]

Talk about silence, you could hear a pin drop when he started in with the bodybuilding not bodydestroying line.

 

[alpha-longhorn]

Anyway if arnold were to come out and say hey these are great products that have many uses we just need to keep it out of the hands of high school kids and keep them in the hands of people who use them resposibly. THATS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. That will never happen becuase all polititions care about is popular opionions.

what? are you for real? Anyone who come out and say shit like that on national tv in this era of anti-roid cares nothing for his family, his career, or his future..

not many of us can show up to work and say that shit without being looked at VERY VERY differently from that day on by everyone around and above us in position. You've got to be kidding me to think anyone would stand up and say that unless he is ready to kill himself tomorrow!

 

[superqt4u2nv]

I found it very hard to hold back the laughter when Arnold was giving his speach about cleaning up body building at the mens finals of the classics.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Opinion

I think he is sincere. Would you want your children taking steroids? Sure it is/was ok for us, but I never ever want my children taking them. Ask Don Long, JJ Marsh, Flex, Mike Francois, The late Don Ross, Mo Mo Benaziza, Mike Matarazzo, Derek Whitsett, Vince Commerford, Shane Dimora, Tom Prince, Dennis Newman, Orville Burke, etc...if they would do it all over again.

 

[BigBoyJ]

To me that would be like Chong giving a speech about the evils of marijuana at Woodstock.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Or Maybe

To me that would be like Chong giving a speech about the evils of marijuana at Woodstock.

Ozzy Osbourne talking about the benefits of drug abuse.

 

[gooey]

above all

I think he is sincere. Would you want your children taking steroids? Sure it is/was ok for us, but I never ever want my children taking them. Ask Don Long, JJ Marsh, Flex, Mike Francois, The late Don Ross, Mo Mo Benaziza, Mike Matarazzo, Derek Whitsett, Vince Commerford, Shane Dimora, Tom Prince, Dennis Newman, Orville Burke, etc...if they would do it all over again.

Phill u have the most creditibility here, at least to me that is why your words have so much wisdom to them, but did all these people die from direct AAS use, or other drugs too, were there any other genetically or inherited diseases that played roles here too. Did Reggie white take AAS and he died in his sleep, did football cause this death? What caused it, many variables. Im sure many of these guyz would have not made the same choice but there was a reason why they chose the path they did. LIke everything in life there is usually positive things and consequences to every decision. Humans do not live forever, we live then we die, some have died doing nothing more then walking across the street. That is why I say live life to its fullest, tell all the people that u love and care for that u luv them everyday, and do what u can while u can. Life is short and one never knows when it will be taken from u, but theres nothing u can do but live and learn and give back as much as u can. I agree with you that drugs can and are abused in BBing but they are in many facets of life, I hope no one I care for dies in the same manner that other BBers have that u mentioned. I see your underlying meaning to all your posts they all generally have the same meaning and message, be smart, be healthy and dont abuse and become the next casualty.
I asked u this b4 phil is there anything u can take from your expericences that was positive. Ur messages can sometimes have a neagtive connatation to BBing and drug use but there is a reason u were in BBing and there is a reason u r still here chatting with us, as much as I know ud hate to say it there was a luv for it, a desire to have it in your life, that is why u were so good at it and it showed, and that is why u r still here on this very board giving us you wisdom....... thanx phil
gooey

 

[BigBoyJ]

I really just hate to see Arnold saying this stuff. Would he have become Mr. Olympia without steroids? Without the Olympia titles, would he have been able to transition into acting? If it wasn't for his muscle mass would anyone in Hollywood have ever known he existed?

My bet is that if it wasn't for steroids, Arnold WOULD NOT be what he is today. Sure he has an amazing ambition and he probably still would have been successful at something, but I'm pretty sure he would not be the icon he is today without those darn evil steroids.