SWALE HAS SOMETHING FOR ALL OF YOU!

[Armageddon]

I think that people are being too skeptical due to the fact that no one has come out and said any of this. Granted there has to be room for $ to be made somewhere. Whether its the consultation fee's or on the products. It doesn't matter, but if someone is taking the time to put there rep out to stand up for OUR cause then maybe some support should be shown. I for the most part am with Mike on this, but need a Doc that I can go to for testing and what not. Being that he's less than 2hrs away its good for me! The idea is new but I think it can work for some.
The logic behind it seems to me that there are guys who have gone bl market for some things, and this scares them. Due to the products they aquire and the fact of just being scared of what they have to deal with. If I had a business and a family and what not I would really think twice about all of this. That is alot to take a chance on losing over an internet order or some dumb ass at the gym that gets you in trouble. Trust me things like this happen every day. It adds a sense of safety to some. But like I said, I've only got my teeth and my pride so no one can take it from me.

 

[Crowler]

I think that people are being too skeptical due to the fact that no one has come out and said any of this. Granted there has to be room for $ to be made somewhere. Whether its the consultation fee's or on the products. It doesn't matter, but if someone is taking the time to put there rep out to stand up for OUR cause then maybe some support should be shown. I for the most part am with Mike on this, but need a Doc that I can go to for testing and what not. Being that he's less than 2hrs away its good for me! The idea is new but I think it can work for some.
The logic behind it seems to me that there are guys who have gone bl market for some things, and this scares them. Due to the products they aquire and the fact of just being scared of what they have to deal with. If I had a business and a family and what not I would really think twice about all of this. That is alot to take a chance on losing over an internet order or some dumb ass at the gym that gets you in trouble. Trust me things like this happen every day. It adds a sense of safety to some. But like I said, I've only got my teeth and my pride so no one can take it from me.

I HONESTLY am trying to understand this.

I have only gotten AS from actual prescriptions so I have never gotten black market stuff. BUT I can no longer get it through scripts so I am VERY interested.

BUT Swale is NOT selling AS or even black market stuff right?

Research kits and other well know and well advertised places sell the exact same Swale is selling right?

SO how is this avoiding the black market?

If I sound frustrated it is because I am.

 

[SWALE]

Crowler, I'm just trying to take what burden I can from the AAS athlete, by providing what the law will allow me to. Also, if a guy gets bunk gear, he just won't grow (unless it's contaminated, then he's got a huge problem). But if his ancillaries are fake, or inconsistent-assay, he'll be stuck with edema, gyno, increased fat in bad places, loss of libido (and ALL the problems that can cause us), depression, etc.

If I just start selling steroids, I won't be of use to anyone, because I will have no Medcial License (and probably be in jail).

The saliva test is still an unproven technology to me. I want your blood. The HRT is done in a good and appropriate manner, as the guys who receive it from me are my patients--and I look out for each and every one of them. So I do it right.

I do have a patient, for instance, who cannot afford HRT from one of those operations you see advertised, where they sell $400 worth of meds for $2000, and get away with it because guys usually have no alternatives. Except to buy from the Black Market. Now he doesn't have to, and he is once again living life to the fullest.

Thank you for your questions and comments.

 

[Crowler]

Can we send you a blood sample or get one tested at a local lab and then you provide a script/send us TEST IF we have low TEST level?

For a price of course.

 

[homonunculus]

Comment & ? for SWALE

Interesting thread and idea,

I think there is a market for this: if you look around there are still openly advertising Steroid "pharmacies" on the net, so it stands to reason that there are buyers who do not have black market connections (sources).

Also, for someone extremely worried r.e. legal problems (a lawyer, another Doc, someone with a criminal record or on probation), a legal alternative might look like:

From SWALE: test base, plus ancillaries
From SWALE: GH for older guys???? (feel free to interject here Doc)
From SWALE: Thyroid for overweight, low T3, etc?...
Other: Insulin
Other: Tren (Legal... kinda)

Questions for SWALE: Just how much test would you be willing to prescribe? Replacement doses obviously don't cut the mustard.

Also, if you would prescribe enought for a good cycle (unlimited Rx?), would you write the scripts so that the pt. would have to follow an agreed upon cycle, coming on and off? If you were to plan out "cycles" and write scripts to match, how would this look if you were investigated? I.e., what would be the medical rationale for prescribing such a pattern of test & ancillaries dosing for someone who is hypogonadal?... (Periodic off times would give you a chance to see if the system is functioning properly again, i.e. eugonadal?...)

-Randy

 

[SWALE]

I hope it's alright for me to answer questions here.

You've obviously given this some thought. Let me sum it up: Insulin, NO. Tren, NO. Thyroid, FOR HYPOTHYROID PATIENTS. GH is a different topic. I'm going to hold off on giving an opinion there until I've returned from a seminar the first week of December, $4000 lighter, but qualified to provide GH. For those who I can, I will.

The rational for prescribing the ancillaries is that steroid athletes present with hypogonadism and high serum estrogen levels. I am merely treating these conditions when I provide ancillaries. In other words, I am improving the health of my patients by doing so. BTW, I was asked today to write an article for a major magazine on "Why your doctor should provide you with ancillaries". We'll see if we can make a change.

 

[Crowler]

Swale, of course it is ok to answer questions here.

I just wish you would answer them the first time we post them so we don't have to repost them.





Questions for SWALE: Just how much test would you be willing to prescribe? Replacement doses obviously don't cut the mustard.

Also, if you would prescribe enought for a good cycle (unlimited Rx?), would you write the scripts so that the pt. would have to follow an agreed upon cycle, coming on and off? If you were to plan out "cycles" and write scripts to match, how would this look if you were investigated?


Can we send you a blood sample or get one tested at a local lab and then you provide a script/send us TEST IF we have low TEST level?



BTW the post wasn't asking about YOU supplying insulin or Tren we have easy access to that stuff. What we are HOPING is you can supply us with the stuff which is more difficult to get. This is NOT the ancileries you keep talking about.

I still don't understand why guys need to go to a Dr. to get the ancileries when they had to break the law to get their gear but if people are stupid enough to pay for a test and then pay higher prices for lidex, Nolva etc more power to you.

 

[SWALE]

Guys, I'm coming up on sixteeen straight hours today--I have not had one minute during that time to myself. If I miss something in a question, I would beg your patience; it takes A LOT for a doctor to get through his or her day. Every day. Also, the answers to every single question I have been asked today were included in my original post, or on my website. That's why I wrote it (not to piss off Mods--they have more than enough to do already).

I'm doing EVERYTHING from the perspective of having it looked at by "The Man" (probably dating myself by using that expression). You indeed have insight into a possible cause of trouble for me. For that reason, I do absolutely nothing I shouldn't. Riding the crest of Medicine in the New Millenium by providing patient care (for a VERY select list of diagnosis and treatment protocols) via an Internet medical practice is enough.

I also am careful not to prescribe steroid cycles. If someone is doing something really crazy, I'll let him know (i.e. 3 months of high dose A-bombs). That is only good patient care.

Once a steroid athlete patient of mine is into his cycle, if adjustments need to be made, we take care of that. The goal here is to keep everything tight--we do what we have to in order for that to happen.

Let me just say, outright, I DO NOT WRITE FOR STEROIDS. I will not answer that question again. The medications I work with are listed, well, you know where. That pretty much limits me to the top of "normal" (I hate that word) range for testosterone levels. Probably the 300mg per week range, more if it's not showing up in your blood. Yes, after completing Medical History, we draw a few labs (through a local lab), then I dose your test. A month or so later, we check to see where your T level is, where your E level is and, most importantly, how you are feeling. At that time, if I have not done so already, I provide you with ancillaries, or titrate the ones you already are on.

I do have a couple of patients who signed up for HRT, but are using the Upjohn test cyp from me as part of their cycles, plus getting ancillaries paid for by insurance. I should say, I have a sneaking suspicion they are planning that. I have to pass it off with a shrug, because I am providing correct HRT, by the book, and at least SOME of their cycle is guaranteed real and safe. Again, just good patient care, to my way of thinking.

What you consider "stupid" actually makes sense to a lot of guys. At least that's what the flood of emails I've gotten the past week or so say. Many are happy to have a doc follow them, check their LFT's, Lipid Profile, etc. Or maybe they just like the fact their ancillaries are now guaranteed FDA-approved. That could really make a difference as you zero-in for a show. It could also be getting them paid for by insurance. Either way, I am not for everybody. P.S. I never thought I could help EVERYONE. However, I can tell you, a lot of guys are contacting me for HRT, because they know they can now afford it. I'm truly happy to bring this life-changing therapy to the peoples.

I think that takes care of it. So, gentlemen, I must bid you adieu. I'm retiring for a couple hours of studying.

 

[Fathead]

ME

I am 36 years old so since test production drops so much for those of us males after 35 you should legally be able to script me 300mgs of test a week because jerking in front of the comp looking at hairy Indian women ain't working

 

[xcelbeyond]

This is "my" read on what the doctor is saying. He does not prescribe steroids for "cycles," only for hrt (hormone replacement therapy). In order to qualify for hrt (which is a ton less amount than most of us are taking), it must be demonstrated (not by your age, but by blood test - and we all know how to lower that) that you have low test levels. As far as the amount he can prescribe etc... I doubt he'll be able to prescribe more than necessary for hrt.

xcel

 

[drgoodbody]

Swale, a couple of things...

1) Ancillaries are relatively cheap on the Blackmarket or thru online pharmacies, so not sure what benefit you can provide beyond what is already available to those with half-a-brain who are considering doing a cycle. (i.e. ancillary meds are no longer a secret nor are they hard to come by)

2) Athletes using steroids are using supraphysiological doses - not HRT doses. The guys on here and on other boards don't just want HRT to be in the "high-normal range" for testosterone -- frankly, they wanna be jacked (~ 1g or more /week most of the time)

3) Steroids are still illegal in the US, with little to no valid medical uses (at least according to the "experts"). Therefore, to provide doses that most of us would be interested in procuring, you'd be breaking the law.

Other than these issues, I think as a standalone HRT service, your's has very good prices.

Best of luck,

DrG

 

[SWALE]

I agree with every single point everyone has made since my last post.
A couple of the other Boards I follow have, oh, maybe 10% of the posts asking questions about hrt, or making statements about same. The posts usually are about (1)they can't get their doc to prescribe it (2) their docs don't know how or (3) it's way too expensive. I just realized I should learn about this, and make it widely available (by developing an Internet medical practice and getting the price DOWN). IMPO, if a doc wants to learn how to correctly prescribe HRT, he/she needs to learn about steroids. Just between you guys and me, I feel most physicians won't pull their noses down long enough to take a good look at the situation. I have learned SO MUCH by reading what the Vets have posted on these subjects.

 

[Armageddon]

I have to disagree with drgoodbody that most guys want to be jacked on shit. Most guys want to look and feel good about themselves. Most don't want to walk around looking like Big A or Ry Roid. That just doesn't please that many people. I think there is a place for Swale and he shall find it. I think more people should say thanks that your willing to put this effort into it and try and help.

 

[Ivan]

I

would LOVE to look like Big A or Ry roid. OR Big Kiwi, Pumped, Fathead.

 

[Armageddon]

We are a small group not close to the majority of men. Most men just want to be able to see there Dick, not some fat hairy belly. They want there wives or a woman in general to find them attractive. They don't want to be a TRUE FREAK! Too bad for them, but its something that is easy to understand.

 

[SWALE]

BTW, guys, I'm picking up a fair number of EX-muscle studs, who now do not have enough juice of their own to even function.

 

[Crowler]

BTW, guys, I'm picking up a fair number of EX-muscle studs, who now do not have enough juice of their own to even function.

What do you mean by function?

 

[SWALE]

You know, get through their days and workouts, feel good, etc. For many of them I mean "function" as in, well, being a man, as in being able to lay pipe (if you know what I mean).

 

[SWALE]

I apologize for the delay in responding to you. I have been on the road to promote my practice 9 out of the last 11 days, and have been suffering some technical difficulties with retrieving messages (I have also, unfortunately, actually lost several files of patient information that were accidentally deleted—that’s really embarrassing). Up until that time I had answered ALL correspondences within 12 hours.

If I write for steroids, I will lose my license. I have a sneaking suspicion a couple of guys have signed up for HRT so they can get the 2 bottles of Upjohn test cyp I release at a time, then are using it for their frontload and first week of their cycle. Alas, all I have to go on is the information they provide on their Medical History Form. Also, to my way of thinking, at least they're getting guaranteed FDA-approved Upjohn test cyp for part of their cycle. The ancillaries are pretty much the same for the AAS Consult as for HRT--we use Clomid/Nolvadex, Arimidex, hCG for both.

I just got back from a huge International conference on HRT (hosted by the legendary Dr. Robert Goldman). I'll be posting some interesting stuff I learned there that will be of interest to AAS users in the next few days. I made a deal there to provide accurate testing of hormones via a urine test, done at home. Saliva hormone testing is still an unproven technology. I would add that a guy DOES NOT have to come in sub-normal on his T levels to get HRT from me--only in severe cases of hypogonadism does the T level drop below 300ng/dL. So there's no reason to mess around with artificially lowering it (which will ruin several days of good training).

On your final point, perhaps I didn't word things very well. I just meant maybe guys would like to be off the streets for at least part of their gear. Indeed, I am getting A LOT of patients from the hormonally-supplemented (Politically Correct lingo) community who feel this way.

 

[drgoodbody]

I disagree...

with Armageddon (as usual), on this board, most folks want to compete or look like they do. If you just want to be fit and not fat, then yes you don't need to be "jacked". I can't afford to look like a juice monkey or freak (because I consult for the office of the cheif exec with several fortune 100 clients who are very biased that big = stupid), but I sure as hell look much, much, better than just your average fit guy who works out a couple times a week. Yup, 210-220 trying to stay ripped, that's me (well most of the time ). So HRT isn't the answer for me (or many on this board I presume), at least not now.

DrG