Test cyp bulking cycle...opinons

[extremephysique]

AAS
Weeks 1-10 :- 750 mg Test Cyp
Weeks 1-4 and weeks 10-12 :- 100mg Prop every 3 days
Weeks 1-12: - 300mg Tren acetate per week
Weeks 8-14:- 50mg Winstrol everyday

Auxillaires
Weeks 1-12 :- 50mg Proviron everyday
Weeks 1-12 :- 20mg tamoxifan daily(considering half tab with proviron)
Weeks 3-12:- HCG 500 I.U every 3 days

Post cycle
Week 13:- 150mg clomid + 20mg tamoxifan
Week 14:-100mg clomid + 20mg tamoxifan
week 15:- 75mg Clomid + 20mg tamoxifan
Weeks 15:- 50mg Cliomid + 20mg tamoxifan



Im currently 200lbs at the moment with around 8 percent bodyfat. Would i be better using a gram a week instead of 750mg (any extra benifit)

I have some existing gyno and dont want it flaring up again, have some letro on stand by but would like to use provrion thoruhgout the cycle with tamoxifan. Would i be better running the letro alone the whole time or only using it as an emergency back up if Proviron/novla fails??

Anything else i could add in to this bulking cycle that would be of beneift???


Im led to beleive that running tamoxifan with tren can acutally increase the risk of gyno, is this true?


Should i use HCG after the cycle as well, or stop it just before PCT and run clomid/novla as normal

 

[JohnnyPro]

12 weeks on tren? Damn, you have more guts than I do.

 

[extremephysique]

12 weeks on tren? Damn, you have more guts than I do.

might just run it for 6-8 weeks then towards end of course

 

[AlphaMale]

AAS
Weeks 1-10 :- 750 mg Test Cyp
Weeks 1-4 and weeks 10-12 :- 100mg Prop every 3 days
Weeks 1-12: - 300mg Tren acetate per week
Weeks 8-14:- 50mg Winstrol everyday

I'd recommend switching the Tren Ace to Tren Enanthate and run it for 10 weeks and extend the Test to 12 - keep everything else the same.
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Keep the Acetate and consider running it at the same time as the Winstrol.

Auxillaires
Weeks 1-12 :- 50mg Proviron everyday
Weeks 1-12 :- 20mg tamoxifan daily(considering half tab with proviron)
Weeks 3-12:- HCG 500 I.U every 3 days

I would consider running Masteron instead of the Proviron as it is a great addition to your cycle either way.
Nolvadex can up-regulate Progesterone receptors which probably really isn't a concern anyway as long as you control estrogen and with 750mg I would run a AI instead and not worry about it anyway.
I would run the Hcg along with your shot schedule i.e if you are shooting EOD then shoot Hcg EOD or E4d and skip doing the math with your cycle. lol.

Post cycle
Week 13:- 150mg clomid + 20mg tamoxifan
Week 14:-100mg clomid + 20mg tamoxifan
week 15:- 75mg Clomid + 20mg tamoxifan
Weeks 15:- 50mg Cliomid + 20mg tamoxifan

Your PCT should be weeks 15+ as you are still on Winstrol during weeks 13 & 14 and your exogenous testosterone probably would still be high anyway. So I'd change your PCT to weeks 15-20 and run for 4-6 weeks.

Im currently 200lbs at the moment with around 8 percent bodyfat. Would i be better using a gram a week instead of 750mg (any extra benifit)

You know that better than we do.

I have some existing gyno and dont want it flaring up again, have some letro on stand by but would like to use provrion thoruhgout the cycle with tamoxifan. Would i be better running the letro alone the whole time or only using it as an emergency back up if Proviron/novla fails??

With some existing gyno I wouldn't play around in a foolish search for more gains (which are only water anyway if done right) and just run the Letro alone and use the Nolvadex as an emergency back-up. If you've never ran Tren before than you might want to consider some T3 or Dostinex as a precaution to Prolactin issues; with Tren at only 300mg it shouldn't be an issue but with your test at 750mg with it, it might.

Anything else i could add in to this bulking cycle that would be of beneift???

I honestly would extend your test and add Deca (probably instead of your Tren). I would also recommend a kickstart with Dbol for the first 3 weeks.

Im led to beleive that running tamoxifan with tren can acutally increase the risk of gyno, is this true?

Not enough science to say 'no go', but I would be very hesitant about recommending Nolvadex for any progestin merely because of Nolvadex's ability to upregulate progesterone receptors. I don't believe in progesterone dependant gyno problems without high levels of estrogen to augment the receptors, but I wouldn't take any chances myself as nolvadex will do absolutely nothing benficual in a Tren or Deca cycle other than selectively antagonize estrogen at certain receptors and be an agonist in others - so it will help stop gyno mediated by estrogen in breast tissue, but may help cause progesterone gyno (IF there is such a thing) at the same time. Again, I'd just use the Letro at 1/4 tab EOD or so and not worry about it.

Should i use HCG after the cycle as well, or stop it just before PCT and run clomid/novla as normal

If you run it during, there would be no sense in running it in PCT.