Test taken sub q?

[Jarconis]

Im just curious, what would happen if one started taking .5 cc of test sub q everyday as opposed to im. Would nothing happen?

 

[jesse7159]

you would get a fat lump, red, swollen and it would probably turn into cellulitis (sp?)

 

[h8tr3d]

i have no clue, and would never try it. Bump for answers??

 

[Jarconis]

you would get a fat lump, red, swollen and it would probably turn into cellulitis (sp?)

you know? or are just guessing?

 

[bm11]

There have been numerous studies showing sub-q injections to be effective for hrt purposes. You have to keep the injections small, such as .5ml, and you have to keep in mind that the release times will be a little different than an IM injection.

Sorry though, I don't have links to the studies.

 

[machola]

you would get a fat lump, red, swollen and it would probably turn into cellulitis (sp?)

...no... i do all my injects sc now. works great. better than im imo.

 

[mikeyt869]

what kind of volume can you do per shot sc?

 

[dieselbuilder]

There have been numerous studies showing sub-q injections to be effective for hrt purposes. You have to keep the injections small, such as .5ml, and you have to keep in mind that the release times will be a little different than an IM injection.

Sorry though, I don't have links to the studies.

Is this what you were talking about? I found it on another board.

**broken link removed**

 

[vadim_b1]

it would GREATLY depend on the carrier used

I have used oils that could easily be injected sub-q and dissipated quickly
and then there are oils that i wouldnt even think about injecting sub-q as there would be a lump sitting there for a week or more.

 

[jesse7159]

it would GREATLY depend on the carrier used

I have used oils that could easily be injected sub-q and dissipated quickly
and then there are oils that i wouldnt even think about injecting sub-q as there would be a lump sitting there for a week or more.

EXACLTY what I was talkin about. had a glut inj that wasnt deep enoigh and thats what happened sub q got inflamed and swollen and red.

 

[Ashop]

I'm sticking with IM injects with my TESTOSTERONE.

 

[Paul Bunyan]

Go ahead and do the sub-q shots. That would be like the guy that injected into his bunghole because someone told him to shoot it in his ass.

PB

 

[tkav1980]

Go ahead and do the sub-q shots. That would be like the guy that injected into his bunghole because someone told him to shoot it in his ass.

PB

thats still one of the funniest threads ive ever read!

 

[bulk]

well if you go to you tube theres a guy that did it sub q with doctors supervision for female to male conversion thing, the guy/girl was a wuss and couldnt handle it muscle, it worked thoe but not sure how productive percentage wise

 

[Jarconis]

hmm, just thought this would be an interesting option for guys who are dealing with scar tissue probs

 

[smootheavy]

hmm, just thought this would be an interesting option for guys who are dealing with scar tissue probs

I have scar tissue, what Ive found is using a smaller guage pin and rotating areas for administration.

 

[machola]

THE FACTS

hmm, just thought this would be an interesting option for guys who are dealing with scar tissue probs

exactly why i started sc.

lots of uneducated responses on this thread... comparing it to a rectum injection, gives you celullitis... give it a shot. no pun intended. here are the facts

1: Saudi Med J. 2006 Dec;27(12):1843-6.Links
Subcutaneous administration of testosterone. A pilot study report.
Al-Futaisi AM, Al-Zakwani IS, Almahrezi AM, Morris D.

Department of Medicine, College of Medicine & Health Sciences, Sultan Qaboos University, Muscat, Oman. [email protected]

OBJECTIVE: To investigate the effect of low doses of subcutaneous testosterone in hypogonadal men since the intramuscular route, which is the most widely used form of testosterone replacement therapy, is inconvenient to many patients. METHODS: All men with primary and secondary hypogonadism attending the reproductive endocrine clinic at Royal Victoria Hospital, Monteral, Quebec, Canada, were invited to participate in the study. Subjects were enrolled from January 2002 till December 2002. Patients were asked to self-administer weekly low doses of testosterone enanthate using 0.5 ml insulin syringe. RESULTS: A total of 22 patients were enrolled in the study. The mean trough was 14.48 +/- 3.14 nmol/L and peak total testosterone was 21.65 +/- 7.32 nmol/L. For the free testosterone the average trough was 59.94 +/- 20.60 pmol/L and the peak was 85.17 +/- 32.88 pmol/L. All of the patients delivered testosterone with ease and no local reactions were reported. CONCLUSION: Therapy with weekly subcutaneous testosterone produced serum levels that were within the normal range in 100% of patients for both peak and trough levels. This is the first report, which demonstrated the efficacy of delivering weekly testosterone using this cheap, safe, and less painful subcutaneous route.

PMID: 17143361 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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STABLE TESTOSTERONE LEVELS ACHIEVED
WITH SUBCUTANEOUS TESTOSTERONE
INJECTIONS
M.B. Greenspan, C.M. Chang
Division of Urology, Department of Surgery, McMaster University,
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Objectives: The preferred technique of androgen replacement
has been intramuscular (IM) testosterone, but wide
variations in testosterone levels are often seen. Subcutaneous
(SC) testosterone injection is a novel approach; however,
its physiological effects are unclear. We therefore investigated
the sustainability of stable testosterone levels using
SC therapy. Patients and methods: Between May and
September 2005, we conducted a small pilot study involving
10 male patients with symptomatic late-onset hypogonadism.
Every patient had been stable on TE 200 mg IM for
41 year. Patients were instructed to self-inject with
testosterone enanthate (TE) 100 mg SC (DELATESTRYL
200 mg/cc, Theramed Corp, Canada) into the anterior
abdomen once weekly. Some patients were down-titrated
to 50 mg based on their total testosterone (T) at 4 weeks.
Informed consent was obtained as SC testosterone administration
is not officially approved by Health Canada. T
levels were measured before and 24 hours after injection
during weeks 1, 2, 3, and 4, and 96 hours after injection
in week 6 and 8. At week 12, PSA, CBC, and T levels
were measured however; the week 12 data are still being
collected. Results: Prior to initiation of SC therapy, T
was 19.14+3.48 nmol/l, hemoglobin 15.8+1.3 g/dl, hematocrit
0.47+0.02, and PSA 1.05+0.65 ng/ml. During
the first 4 weeks, there was a steady increase in
pre-injection T from 19.14+3.48 to 23.89+9.15 nmol/l
(p¼0.1). However, after 8 weeks the post-injection T
(25.77+7.67 nmol/l) remained similar to that of week 1
(27.46+12.91 nmol/l). Patients tolerated this therapy with
no adverse effects. Conclusions: A once-week SC injection
of 50–100 mg of TE appears to achieve sustainable and
stable levels of physiological T. This technique offers
fewer physician visits and the use of smaller quantity of
medication, thus lower costs. However, the long term
clinical and physiological effects of this therapy need further
evaluation.

 

[Muay Thai]

fuck i just tried it .5cc test suspension gear is mostly EO

did it sub q and seems to be alittle irritated around area..........keeping fingers crossed, so far so good other than the irritaiton could be becfause of BA OR BB

i have ciproflex on hand just in case

i put an antibiotic ointment which is neomycin and polymixn b sulfate and bacitarin zinc combined on the site to ensure sterilitiy after i injected

from meso

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens...ng-testosterone-subcutaneously-134237662.html

 

[Retriever]

I tried it last week and while the injection site stays tender longer, the injection itself hurts less and the release seems smoother (after injecting IM I always get horny after a few hours, but not after injecting sub Q).

 

[vadim_b1]

fuck i just tried it .5cc test suspension gear is mostly EO

did it sub q and seems to be alittle irritated around area..........keeping fingers crossed, so far so good other than the irritaiton could be becfause of BA OR BB

i have ciproflex on hand just in case

i put an antibiotic ointment which is neomycin and polymixn b sulfate and bacitarin zinc combined on the site to ensure sterilitiy after i injected

from meso

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens...ng-testosterone-subcutaneously-134237662.html

EO is actually worse than plain oil for this IMO

at least for me every time if some gear ive injected leaks under the skin, i get a red lump and sometimes annoying irritation which can last for days.
One time i even thought it was cellulitis and went to a doctor to check it out.
It turned out it was just a skin reaction, but it looked pretty bad - painful red hot lump over a large area (ive injected into my delt and some EO spilled down into an area over the biceps). Then again i was using some high mg/ml gear, so that could have contributed as well.