very true B12 is great for so many aspects of the bodybuilders life style. Now when it comes to AAS, from personal experience i'd have to say nothing beats tren when accompanied with some good ol test. As for a third i'd say Deca. Orals i've only tried Dbol and hate the liver paranoia i get when on it so i stay away from orals, undeniable however are the gains that come with Dbol, they are crazy!