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TORONTO SHOW RESULTS...

LATS

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TOP 4 IN THIS ORDER 1)DARREM CHARLES (keeps adding good size and is really geeting awesome delts to say the least) 2) jonny jackson (was very shredded to say the least.. if he ever fills in the delts and arms he will be tough to beat.. back is awesome) 3) haidar 4) craig richardson.. again comp was very poor with no top tier pros showing except for darrem.. but, top three did look very good..
 
Damn right! Awesome to see Johnnie Jackson place well. That man is a beast!

TH
 
THANKS FOR POSTING THAT INFO.

I LIKE HADIER'S PHYSIQUE....DAREEM CHARLES ALWAYS HAS LOOKED SORTA GOOFY..I DON'T KNOW WHY I FEEL LIKE THAT! :confused:
 
I was at the show I thought the judges finnaly got the placings right.
 
I'm sorry, i think Jackson won after looking at the pics again. But it is different in person!

TH
 
I was shown a copy of the judges score sheet at the completion of the contest. Darrem's win over 2nd place Johnny Jackson was decisive, not close at all.

Actually the crowd started booing when Ahmed was passed over for 2nd
and given 3rd. Many shouted out they wanted their money back.

The new IFBB directive re bloated growth guts and symmetry seems to be
more than just words.

Worldspan
 
I WOULD THINK THAT IF THE IFBB WAS HOLDING FIRM TO THEIR DIRECTIVE, HAIDAR WOULD HAVE WON.. instead they awarded darrem, who is getting bigger and thicker with every show.. and the freak jackson got second.. it is like what one judge (ifbb) said when i ask him about the directive.. he stated that the fans themselves are putting too much into this directive.. all the ifbb was saying was that the guts had to be kept in check (which we can all agree too) this in turn would give the athlete a better v taper and would be more pleasing to the "eye".. the freaks are still going to win the olympia.. ronnie will still win.. one can not base what the ifbb is going to do based on these last couple of shows.. they were packed with lower level athletes.. if cutler, ronnie, cormier, preist ect would have entered the shows it would have been totally different.. the olympia will be the test to see how well they enforce it.. by the way, the same judge told me that he felt that ronnie was symettrical and still pleasing to the eye at 290 pounds.. so once again.. i think the fans are blowing too much into this..the ifbb might have a different view of things than we..
 
Yeah not sure why but....

Jethro T. I also feel that Dareem C. looks weird. Not sure what it is but looks wrong. To me it looks like A) his legs are not thick enough B) He is a very thin guy naturally. C) calves are horrible for a pro BB. Now Im not saying he is not ripped etc.. or that he did not deserve to win the show but I just think he looks strange. Heck Im not even on the same level as this guy, or on the same level as most on this board. Just strange is all I can say. :confused:
 
I gotta admit I am a friend of Darrem's so obviously I am biased.

However, no doubt Ahmed looked great and when the individual routines were done first, I thought there was a very good chance Ahmed would give Darrem
a run for his money.

However, when they went into comparisons, side by side, then Darrem
really outclasses Ahmed. What Ahmed has going for him are his abs and
good symmetry, but his legs are weak as are his biceps. But I would
definetly have given Ahmed second, not the third he ended up with.

Regarding the IFBB directive, yes talk is cheap. The Olympia will be the real test. However, if things stick, and with Dexter NOT
doing the Olympia, the most that stand to gain are indeed Darrem, Melvin
Anthony, and Victor Martinez if he can somehow arrive there in condition.

Worldspan
LATS said:
I WOULD THINK THAT IF THE IFBB WAS HOLDING FIRM TO THEIR DIRECTIVE, HAIDAR WOULD HAVE WON.. instead they awarded darrem, who is getting bigger and thicker with every show.. and the freak jackson got second.. it is like what one judge (ifbb) said when i ask him about the directive.. he stated that the fans themselves are putting too much into this directive.. all the ifbb was saying was that the guts had to be kept in check (which we can all agree too) this in turn would give the athlete a better v taper and would be more pleasing to the "eye".. the freaks are still going to win the olympia.. ronnie will still win.. one can not base what the ifbb is going to do based on these last couple of shows.. they were packed with lower level athletes.. if cutler, ronnie, cormier, preist ect would have entered the shows it would have been totally different.. the olympia will be the test to see how well they enforce it.. by the way, the same judge told me that he felt that ronnie was symettrical and still pleasing to the eye at 290 pounds.. so once again.. i think the fans are blowing too much into this..the ifbb might have a different view of things than we..
 
Problem was that Johnnie was sporting some gyno, that's why he didn't win it, otherwise he's a thick mofo...

DrG
 

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And it is extremely visible in this side chest vs. Darrem...
 

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Dexter not doing Olympia?

Why??
 
luckyone said:
Dexter not doing Olympia because he just signed a major contract with Met-Rx (I guess he's leaving Muscletech) and that is his reason. Says he will
be extremely busy this fall in conjunction with that contract.

Worldspan
 
ya know.. i look at that picture of the side chest shots and still think jackson won.. gyno and all..
 
LATS said:
ya know.. i look at that picture of the side chest shots and still think jackson won.. gyno and all..
Biceps/Delts much better on Darrem, chest thickness a draw, quads slightly more striated on Jackson, sorry I feel this is one comparison where height(Darrem and he's only 5'9") adds a lot to the "total package."

Just my opinion, Worldspan
 
LATS said:
ya know.. i look at that picture of the side chest shots and still think jackson won.. gyno and all..
theres alot of good lighting on JJ in that particular picture. yea thats some ugly gyno hes got going on there really shows in his side chest pose.
 

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