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Apologies if this has been posted before, but a couple other interesting quotes from Grymkowski:

“DR. MURRAY ISRAEL TOLD ME NEVER TO TAKE ANAVAR ALONE.LEARNED SOME ABOUT DECA DURABOLIN INJECTIONS. GOT MARRIED IN 1971, AND MY WIFE’S UNCLE WAS A DOCTOR IN ROME. I KNEW ONE OF ARNOLD’S FAVORITE DRUGS WAS PRIMOBOLIN, AND I CALLED TO ASK HIM ABOT THE DECA AND PRIMOBOLIN. HE SAID THEY WERE HOPPING UP ANIMAL FEED WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF STEROIDS IN EUROPE, AND THIS ALSO INVOLVED RUSSIAN REASEARCH.

BEAGLE DOGS WERE GIVEN 3,000 MGS OF STEROIDS PER KILOGRAM OF BODYWEIGHT PER DAY, AND THEY SUFFERED NO SIDE EFFECTS. THERE WAS ORGABOLIN FROM RUSSIA, AND ALSO SOME ROUND PELLETS IN OIL WHICH CAME 12 TO A UNIT. I DECIDED TO START TAKING NINE SHOTS PER DAY ALONG WITH FIVE BOTTLES OF ORALS PER DAY. THIS WAS A TOTAL OF 10,000 MILIGRAMS PER DAY.

I TOOK TWO TYPES OF TESTOSTERONES, AS WELL AS ANAVAR AND NILAVAR. I BALSTED UP TO 262 POUNDS. NO SIDE EFFECTS, EVER. IN 1972 ON WAS ON THIS DOASGE FOR ONE YEAR STRAIGHT. THE RUSSIANS AS WELL AS DR. HOROWITZ FROM POLAND SUGGESTED TO KEEP DOSAGES HIGH ALL THE TIME TO KEEP THE STEROID RECEPTOR SITES OPEN. SO, FROM 71-73, I DID THIS. I STARTED AT 3,000 MGS PER DAY, WORKING MY WAY UP TO 10,000 MGS PER DAY AND STAYING THERE. OF COURSE, I’D TAKE CLOMID AND NOLVADEX TO KEEP MY NATURAL ANDROGENS UP” (DUSA).


He went on, saying:

“MY UNCLE AND SISTER, BOTH DOCS, AGREED THAT THE SUPER HIGH DOSAGES OF STEROIDS PROTECTED ME…NOT CYCLING HELPED ME. CYCLING CAUSED DEFICIENCIES IN THE ORGANS. I’D DRINK BEET JUICE AND CRANBERRY JUICE TO FLUSH THE BLADDER AND LIVER AND KEEP MY ACID LEVELS DOWN”
 
Apologies if this has been posted before, but a couple other interesting quotes from Grymkowski:

“DR. MURRAY ISRAEL TOLD ME NEVER TO TAKE ANAVAR ALONE.LEARNED SOME ABOUT DECA DURABOLIN INJECTIONS. GOT MARRIED IN 1971, AND MY WIFE’S UNCLE WAS A DOCTOR IN ROME. I KNEW ONE OF ARNOLD’S FAVORITE DRUGS WAS PRIMOBOLIN, AND I CALLED TO ASK HIM ABOT THE DECA AND PRIMOBOLIN. HE SAID THEY WERE HOPPING UP ANIMAL FEED WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF STEROIDS IN EUROPE, AND THIS ALSO INVOLVED RUSSIAN REASEARCH.

BEAGLE DOGS WERE GIVEN 3,000 MGS OF STEROIDS PER KILOGRAM OF BODYWEIGHT PER DAY, AND THEY SUFFERED NO SIDE EFFECTS. THERE WAS ORGABOLIN FROM RUSSIA, AND ALSO SOME ROUND PELLETS IN OIL WHICH CAME 12 TO A UNIT. I DECIDED TO START TAKING NINE SHOTS PER DAY ALONG WITH FIVE BOTTLES OF ORALS PER DAY. THIS WAS A TOTAL OF 10,000 MILIGRAMS PER DAY.

I TOOK TWO TYPES OF TESTOSTERONES, AS WELL AS ANAVAR AND NILAVAR. I BALSTED UP TO 262 POUNDS. NO SIDE EFFECTS, EVER. IN 1972 ON WAS ON THIS DOASGE FOR ONE YEAR STRAIGHT. THE RUSSIANS AS WELL AS DR. HOROWITZ FROM POLAND SUGGESTED TO KEEP DOSAGES HIGH ALL THE TIME TO KEEP THE STEROID RECEPTOR SITES OPEN. SO, FROM 71-73, I DID THIS. I STARTED AT 3,000 MGS PER DAY, WORKING MY WAY UP TO 10,000 MGS PER DAY AND STAYING THERE. OF COURSE, I’D TAKE CLOMID AND NOLVADEX TO KEEP MY NATURAL ANDROGENS UP” (DUSA).


He went on, saying:

“MY UNCLE AND SISTER, BOTH DOCS, AGREED THAT THE SUPER HIGH DOSAGES OF STEROIDS PROTECTED ME…NOT CYCLING HELPED ME. CYCLING CAUSED DEFICIENCIES IN THE ORGANS. I’D DRINK BEET JUICE AND CRANBERRY JUICE TO FLUSH THE BLADDER AND LIVER AND KEEP MY ACID LEVELS DOWN”
The broscience of the 70s!!
 
Apologies if this has been posted before, but a couple other interesting quotes from Grymkowski:

“DR. MURRAY ISRAEL TOLD ME NEVER TO TAKE ANAVAR ALONE.LEARNED SOME ABOUT DECA DURABOLIN INJECTIONS. GOT MARRIED IN 1971, AND MY WIFE’S UNCLE WAS A DOCTOR IN ROME. I KNEW ONE OF ARNOLD’S FAVORITE DRUGS WAS PRIMOBOLIN, AND I CALLED TO ASK HIM ABOT THE DECA AND PRIMOBOLIN. HE SAID THEY WERE HOPPING UP ANIMAL FEED WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF STEROIDS IN EUROPE, AND THIS ALSO INVOLVED RUSSIAN REASEARCH.

BEAGLE DOGS WERE GIVEN 3,000 MGS OF STEROIDS PER KILOGRAM OF BODYWEIGHT PER DAY, AND THEY SUFFERED NO SIDE EFFECTS. THERE WAS ORGABOLIN FROM RUSSIA, AND ALSO SOME ROUND PELLETS IN OIL WHICH CAME 12 TO A UNIT. I DECIDED TO START TAKING NINE SHOTS PER DAY ALONG WITH FIVE BOTTLES OF ORALS PER DAY. THIS WAS A TOTAL OF 10,000 MILIGRAMS PER DAY.

I TOOK TWO TYPES OF TESTOSTERONES, AS WELL AS ANAVAR AND NILAVAR. I BALSTED UP TO 262 POUNDS. NO SIDE EFFECTS, EVER. IN 1972 ON WAS ON THIS DOASGE FOR ONE YEAR STRAIGHT. THE RUSSIANS AS WELL AS DR. HOROWITZ FROM POLAND SUGGESTED TO KEEP DOSAGES HIGH ALL THE TIME TO KEEP THE STEROID RECEPTOR SITES OPEN. SO, FROM 71-73, I DID THIS. I STARTED AT 3,000 MGS PER DAY, WORKING MY WAY UP TO 10,000 MGS PER DAY AND STAYING THERE. OF COURSE, I’D TAKE CLOMID AND NOLVADEX TO KEEP MY NATURAL ANDROGENS UP” (DUSA).


He went on, saying:

“MY UNCLE AND SISTER, BOTH DOCS, AGREED THAT THE SUPER HIGH DOSAGES OF STEROIDS PROTECTED ME…NOT CYCLING HELPED ME. CYCLING CAUSED DEFICIENCIES IN THE ORGANS. I’D DRINK BEET JUICE AND CRANBERRY JUICE TO FLUSH THE BLADDER AND LIVER AND KEEP MY ACID LEVELS DOWN”
We have a topic here - high dosage …. For this guy it would be a warm up for a day what guys take in a week…
 
Wow, this information is a little paradigm shifting...no not really
 
Well, after watching his video I just started 25mg of TREN a week added to my hrt. It makes sense to me. Seems very small of a dose, but I will report back in a few weeks....
I started something similar. 10 mg on Sunday morning and Thursday morning, and I do a full body workout Sunday and Thursday evening. I'm only two workouts in, and there was no change in strength on my first workout, but on my second workout, I was able to get several more reps on my first work set. I got a few more reps on some (not all) of the other sets too.
 
Per Randy Roach, the author of Muscle Smoke and Mirrors, Volume I and II. I know Randy very very well. Worked with him on Volume II (and am credited) for over a year, traveled all over the country gathering info for the book. Randy is blind in both eyes so I had to scan everything and run it through a OCR before sending. He typed and I proofread most of it. It was a long and arduous process but worth it.

Volume I and II are invaluable to anybody who is interested in the history of bodybuilding and supplements. They are acknowledged as being the definitive go to place for accurate historical info on bodybuilding up to and including the “Golden Era”. Priceless. (That is a free plug Randy.)

Probably TMI. Oh well.

Here is what he just said:

Some amazing bodybuilding history


Thanks for sharing. If you do ever decide to write a book on your own experiences in bodybuilding, I'm pretty sure half this forum will be pre ordering it
 
Some amazing bodybuilding history


Thanks for sharing. If you do ever decide to write a book on your own experiences in bodybuilding, I'm pretty sure half this forum will be pre ordering it
I was checking the / my dates again and I realized that 1977 was when Pete was in the midst of it and is when I met him at Golds Gym in Santa Monica. While Pete was big but in retrospect there was clearly no correlation between how much he was taking and how much muscle he had. He had the worst acne on his back then I have ever seen, like boils all over. I don’t recall if he competed that year. I ran a few ‘errands’ for him . . . why he trusted me I have no clue . . . when I was hanging out and working out at the gym prior to the AAU Mr. America contest. (I think Pete and a partner had just bought it and moved it to Santa Monica from Venice Beach.)
 
I was checking the / my dates again and I realized that 1977 was when Pete was in the midst of it and is when I met him at Golds Gym in Santa Monica. While Pete was big but in retrospect there was clearly no correlation between how much he was taking and how much muscle he had. He had the worst acne on his back then I have ever seen, like boils all over. I don’t recall if he competed that year. I ran a few ‘errands’ for him . . . why he trusted me I have no clue . . . when I was hanging out and working out at the gym prior to the AAU Mr. America contest. (I think Pete and a partner had just bought it and moved it to Santa Monica from Venice Beach.)

Pete Grymkowski is a great example of why you can't just drug your way to becoming an elite pro

He was well built but was probably taking enough to fuel the entire top 5 open class lineup in the Olympia today
 

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