what can i take that wont effect sperm count

[Pincrusher]

im in a bit of a situation here. the wife wants to have a child, so i have to be carefull what i take. i need some help with figuring out what products, aas or synthetek or somebody elses products that i could take to still be able to make some gains till i get the wife pregnant. i have been cycling for 2+ years now and whenever im on gear at least test, my sperm count goes down to next to nothing. my wife is 41 and im 38 so it will be hard enough as is because of our ages. i was thinking that igf-1 r3 would be a possibility cause i havent read where it would affect sperm count. was also looking at a few of the products from synthetek but never used any of them before. please help im desperate, at least till she gets pregnant, then i can go back to my normal cycling. thanks in advance for your help

 

[A50#]

Sperm Count

If your really serious about having a baby, I myself would probably just leave AAS, Igf, alone for awhile until you've busted that special nut Grab you some SynthePURE for your protein needs, and maybe some Synthelamin to boost your appetite and keep yourself natural until you and the wifey reach your goal.

 

[xcelbeyond]

I've never heard of IGF-1 or GH affecting sperm count, but I don't really know for sure. And - it's rather expensive!

Cyling clen would help retain muscle along with keeping your diet good. I'm not a 'slin user but that could also. My concern with using just 'slin is that it makes many put on fat! Of course Synthetek products work great also!

xcel

 

[totalrecall54]

agree

i agree with A50

if you are serious... stay clean
until the seed is planted !



-totalrecall54

 

[wolverine]

Why would you even consider taking any kind of drug when trying to conceive? I wouldn't even take the risk.

 

[Pincrusher]

i realize that aas use was pretty much out of the question but i would really like some guidance on what synthetek products i could take to help me make some gains while going through this childbirthing process. i was also still looking into gh usage but will not take it unless absolutely 100% sure it would not be detrimental in any way. at 38 yrs old and the wife being 41 contraception will be hard enough as is since she is coming of about 22 years of contraceptive use. thanks for all the suggestions guys and look forward to any references you can make about synthetek product useage.

 

[Paul Bunyan]

Get some clomid and some HCG. Make your balss extremely huge and full, then unleash the tidal wave of semen on the wife. She'll be knocked up in no time and you can get back to juicing.

PB

 

[Big A]

AAS will stop your sperm production. No way around it.

You can use GH, etc as the male sperm does not get affected or 'modified'. That is impossible. For that to happen, it would have to be 'changed' at the DNA level.
Of course the wife should not touch anything, as any drug will affect the feotus once impregnated.

HCG for a week and you will be super-fertile.

For Synthetek product reviews, use the Search function to search for whichever product you are interested in. Also, check out the Synthetek sticky thread at the top of the board. Then once you decide on which ones you want to use, ask for feedback if you wish.
All Synthetek products are safe to use as they are not hormonal based in any way, so they will not affect your sperm count.

 

[BiggerStronger]

Yep...Like the others said HCG and maybe clomid if you so choose. That should stimulate sperm production quickly.

 

[Skip]

AAS will stop your sperm production. No way around it.

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I have all the respect in the world for your advice, Big A, but I am going to disagree 100% and I am going to tell you why.

I have run test non-stop for about the last 3.5 years except for when I was sick after my last show in June. I didn't take anything for about 2 months but I am sure that I still had test levels but they were declining over those 2 months. I started back on in early September running 1400mg test and 1100mg of deca every 8 days. I have been doing this straight from September and growing like a damned weed.

I found out YESTERDAY that my wife and I are expecting our fourth child as she is 7 weeks pregnant.

Now, I know that sperm count is supposed to be non-existent and quite frankly, it doesn't make much sense that it would NOT be. However, I can assure you of two things: my gear is 100% legit - NO question and my wife is 100% legit - no question. Your sperm count might be negligible but it doesn't mean that you have no sperm count at all.

Apparantly, I have about 3 sperm and 1 must have had a cape on with a giant "S" on it.

Skip

 

[BiggerStronger]

Yeah...I think "Stop sperm production" is a bit misleading.

It *can* stop sperm production, but it wont do it immediately and like Skip said its definitely possible...more like probable that it wont stop completely for most.

Using stuff like HCG and Clomid would just increase the chances of impregnating your wife as sperm production should be much much higher.

 

[Big A]

I have all the respect in the world for your advice, Big A, but I am going to disagree 100% and I am going to tell you why.

I have run test non-stop for about the last 3.5 years except for when I was sick after my last show in June. I didn't take anything for about 2 months but I am sure that I still had test levels but they were declining over those 2 months. I started back on in early September running 1400mg test and 1100mg of deca every 8 days. I have been doing this straight from September and growing like a damned weed.

I found out YESTERDAY that my wife and I are expecting our fourth child as she is 7 weeks pregnant.

Now, I know that sperm count is supposed to be non-existent and quite frankly, it doesn't make much sense that it would NOT be. However, I can assure you of two things: my gear is 100% legit - NO question and my wife is 100% legit - no question. Your sperm count might be negligible but it doesn't mean that you have no sperm count at all.

Apparantly, I have about 3 sperm and 1 must have had a cape on with a giant "S" on it.

Skip

That means that you have good genetics like me, so I bet you can use lots f gear with basically no side effects.

Even when I was on gear at one stretch for 4.5years straight, never taking less then 1,000mg/week of androgens, when I came off, my HPTA was back to normal in 6 weeks.

When I start on gear it takes me about 8 weeks to shut down fully.

Obviously you can recover just as quick. It could take you a bit longer than me to fully shut down - from your time line, it only seems like one or two weeks extra over me. I bet if you do a test now, 4months+ after you have been on gear non stop, you will be fully shut down.

Us, the ones with better genetics of accepting gear, our body tries to stay 'normal' as long as it can. That's why we don't get sick on gear either. Actually I thrive on it.
The opposite is the poor soul that gets sick on 200mg of deca.

 

[Skip]

You are probably right because I don't have anymore sides at these dosages than I did at much lower dosages the past couple years. In fact, my sides have been so minimal (knock on wood) they are hardly worth mentioning.

I am taking a test to check my sperm count in the next couple days just for curiosity purposes but I figured that it still won't give me an accurate read because the count now could be nil but 7 weeks ago when the egg was fertilized, I could have had a much higher count. It will still be interesting to see what the numbers are, though.

Oh, and I don't have anywhere near the genetics you do, bro. lol
My shoulders are about 1/3 the width of yours. I did get your point, though.

Skip

 

[Mr Pickels]

Re: Sperm Count

and maybe some Synthelamin to boost your appetite and keep yourself natural until you and the wifey reach your goal.

big bump for Synthelamin... biiiiiiiiiig bump

 

[MightyJohn]

I got My X gf knocked up

I got My X gf knocked up on 1000 test, 400 deca & 350 fina weekly & 1-1/2 IP winnys a day...I thought she was lying but I was w/her like every nite for months straight so who knows....& damn it non-effective birth control pill.....LOL

 

[tbonus]

I guess that makes sense for me too. I have a two year old girl to show for it and I usually don't get sides from gear.

 

[Pincrusher]

thanks for all the feedback guys. i know when i had a sperm count done a couple weeks ago when i first came off, the doc told me i had the count of a dead person. i have been taking clomid & hcg and will have another test done next week to recheck count. the wife and i decided to try in-vitro since her insurance will cover it and hopefully it will speed things up. right now i am doing a non aas cutting cycle with synthetine & sythelamine and cardio every morning for 1hr, so at least it is a productive time off. am also accumilating goodies for next go round so i will be all ready the day she gives me the big announcement. apperently my sperm dont wear a cape with a big s on it