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What doctor to see for knees?

anabolicdragon

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What kid of doctor would I go to have my knees looked at. I don't know who remembers but I posted a while ago how my knees are killing me during leg day. Well I took the last 4 weeks off from doing legs just to see if it would get better. During that time I have just bern running and hitting the stairmaster which doesn't bother my knees.
Well today I was playing wiffle ball and was running hard, my knees were killing me then I banged my knee lightly and it hurt like hell. Something isn't normal. When I was in the Air Force the docs told me...)I don't know how to pronoucn it so I will some it out) they said I had Bir-Si-dis in my knees.
Can you guys give me suggestions on what to do. Oh Iwas in the Air Force around 1996.
 

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Good to see ya AnabolicDragon!

I would go see an Orthpedic Surgeon that specializes in "Sports Injuries." You may need to get a referal from your regular doc for insurance purposes. If you need one, it can usually be done with a telephone call.

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Agreed, go to a sports doctor. He was much better than my family doc.
 

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knee doc

i'd recommend an ENTK(ear,nose,throat and knee) doctor. BILL
 

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Re: Good to see ya AnabolicDragon!

xcelbeyond said:
I would go see an Orthpedic Surgeon that specializes in "Sports Injuries." You may need to get a referal from your regular doc for insurance purposes. If you need one, it can usually be done with a telephone call.

xcelbeyond
Xcelbeyond it's good to be back on this board, I learned a few things here and since my former home is now gone..we all know which site that is. I am looking forward to posting here and learning.
I am very excited I started my cycle today looking forward to some big gains AND I m changing my training routine to a H.I.T. Style for the duration of the cycle. Hopefully I can shock some extra growth out of me using it.

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anabolicdragon said:
What kid of doctor would I go to have my knees looked at. I don't know who remembers but I posted a while ago how my knees are killing me during leg day. Well I took the last 4 weeks off from doing legs just to see if it would get better. During that time I have just bern running and hitting the stairmaster which doesn't bother my knees.
Well today I was playing wiffle ball and was running hard, my knees were killing me then I banged my knee lightly and it hurt like hell. Something isn't normal. When I was in the Air Force the docs told me...)I don't know how to pronoucn it so I will some it out) they said I had Bir-Si-dis in my knees.
Can you guys give me suggestions on what to do. Oh Iwas in the Air Force around 1996.
Bursitis.

BUT, usually docs are very keen to operate on the kness despite saying that after the operation they can't guarantee that you can squat trouble free.
Check first that your tendons are OK (ie not tight). Having tight ligaments in the knee area is a very common occurence when you lift weights. I see a deep tissue masseuse once a week and my knees are perfect. Before I was getting the massages, I could hardly walk, never mind squat and I wasted fortunes on physios and docs over 2 years.
 

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That's it

Bursitis that was it.
I tryed to do legs today after a 4 week lay of from them. I wamruped pretty good, did lunges then leg press. Then I tryed squats I did the bar then 135 I went to 315 casue I was really warm by now and I couldn't even come down 2 inches.
The leg presses didn't hurt at all I did my feet almost touching and high on the board felt really good.
Where can I go to gt that kind of massage?
 

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Look in the telephone book for "sports massage" or deep tissue massage. You'll probably get some big-ass bro or bra that can put "their weight" behind it - LOL! If you get a good-looking babe that can do it, I'll be pissed :D

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I know your pain. When I was just into my 2nd week of precontest prep I injured my knee and was very limited to the movments I could do for legs. What I did do was put some biofreeze ( or whatever pain releiving getl) on my knees them wore neoprene knee wraps. I always rode the bike for 5-10 minutes to get my knees warmed up and then stretched throughout my leg workout. When I got home I iced them for about 20 min on then 20 min off 2-3 times. Eventually it went away.

I can tell you from my experience in my profession that if you continue to have knee pain and you receive massage, accupuncture or what-have-you that I would see a specialist like xcel said. They will more than likely take x-rays and find nothing, then an MRI which I find very valuable and still maybe nothing. However if then tell you its arthritis or bursitis(chronic) I would call bullshit. I have known too many people whose xrays and mri's were within-normal-limits and when scoped found alot of cartilage damage etc. First just try really healing them yourself, then if that fails follow that as a guideline.
 

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Please explain the exact location of the pain and the actions that cause pain. Also how tender to the touch is it and do you feel a lump where it is tender?
 

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This might sound weird but...

this might sound weird but i would check go to an acupuncturist. one that is NCAAOM certified. I have a complete acl tear in my left knee that happened last Nov. I have been seeing an acupuncturist for it since a month after it happened. I NEVER have to take pain medicine unless it goes out on me. Then it is only till i can get into him. The average cost of a treatment is around $60 but it is well worth it. If you cannot find one try going to www.acupuncture.com and looking for a doctor in your area. If you have any questions feel free to email me.
 

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getnbigger

Welcome to the board bro!

You the same getnbigger that went to the Nationals last year (lightweight)?

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muscle96ss said:
Please explain the exact location of the pain and the actions that cause pain. Also how tender to the touch is it and do you feel a lump where it is tender?
The pain is right at the front of the knee, like the knee cap.
Example say if I am on one knee or on both knees the part touching theund is the part that kills me. When it is cold like at night with the AC on it throbs I sometimes I moan out loud. Even when I am in a car for awhile wheather riding or driving they start to hurt after awhile.
As far as actions that make it hurt, well if I bang it even lightly, squating, sprinting (but not jogging) stairmaster (just alittle). Leg extesntions (just alittle)
 

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My first instinct was that it may be a tendonitis as that is very common. But by your description it definitely sounds like a bursitis. Bursitis is caused by either overuse or a hard trauma. When you banged your knee it probably aggravated it.

You can try the massage or acupuncture and see if it works(although it will hurt like hell during the massage). Unfortunately the other treatment is rest. I normally don't promote rest with most injuries as there is usually a way around the injury; however, bursitis is one where sometimes rest is the only cure.
 

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I think I found a way to train my legs

I copied this from IAN's interview. Man this looks like it will work for my aching knees.

IAN: Basically, I stumbled across pre-exhaustion training at the age of 17 when I shattered both of my knees. I injured both of my knees very badly squatting heavy at a young age. I was squatting like 620 for 12 reps at the age of 17. I ended up shattering both my knees and I had to find away around training my legs so I didn't put stress on the joint. That's how I stumbled across pre-exhaustion training. For 4 years I did leg extensions first, very, very high repetitions to warm the knee-joint up. I then finish up with one compound movement like hack squats or leg press, very high reps again. I just found that by doing that, I was able to take the muscle to failure without putting the weight stress on the joint. So by pre-exhausting, your taking the muscle to failure, then going to a compound movement, and your able to take the muscle past the failure you normally would achieve on that movement, but you not putting the stress on the joints because you don't have the huge weights
 

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Yeah, but the thing is that Ian was almost this big when he was 18. He already built up his size from squats.
 

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