What does everyone like better igf-1 DES or igf-1 LR3

[Elvia1023]

I like a good amount of carbs with my IGF1

I have just ordered 5 vials of lr3 from peptidetech. I will see how it feels and adjust accordingly. I assume it will be strong so I will probably max out at 100mcg but if I can use more I will. If I can dose it higher it will be 200mcg eod as long as I get no post injection crash.

I will be dieting but first I am speeding up my metabolism. I have a rough plan of daily eating for the summer and most of my carbs will be taken in around training. I will play about with lr3 timing. But when I use it in the night it's gonna be a epic. I don't mind crashing as I can go to bed afterwards. 100-200g carbs and 50g+ protein post injection and if it's gtg I will wake up tighter, fuller and more vascular

 

[RamboStallone]

I have just ordered 5 vials of lr3 from peptidetech. I will see how it feels and adjust accordingly. I assume it will be strong so I will probably max out at 100mcg but if I can use more I will. If I can dose it higher it will be 200mcg eod as long as I get no post injection crash.

I will be dieting but first I am speeding up my metabolism. I have a rough plan of daily eating for the summer and most of my carbs will be taken in around training. I will play about with lr3 timing. But when I use it in the night it's gonna be a epic. I don't mind crashing as I can go to bed afterwards. 100-200g carbs and 50g+ protein post injection and if it's gtg I will wake up tighter, fuller and more vascular

I ordered 4 they just landed. I'm going to keep doing 100mcgs with slin preworkout.

 

[johnjuanb1]

I have just ordered 5 vials of lr3 from peptidetech. I will see how it feels and adjust accordingly. I assume it will be strong so I will probably max out at 100mcg but if I can use more I will. If I can dose it higher it will be 200mcg eod as long as I get no post injection crash.

I will be dieting but first I am speeding up my metabolism. I have a rough plan of daily eating for the summer and most of my carbs will be taken in around training. I will play about with lr3 timing. But when I use it in the night it's gonna be a epic. I don't mind crashing as I can go to bed afterwards. 100-200g carbs and 50g+ protein post injection and if it's gtg I will wake up tighter, fuller and more vascular

Stick with 100mcg IGF1-LR3. I tried 200mcg but didn’t notice a greater benefit!
Peptidetech IGF1 gave me a killer pump and fullness 24/7 but i had to take a nap after my post workout meal. It knocked me out hard. Hahaha

 

[SwedishSteel]

If u need 100mcg the igf is shit, who would want to buy that..

 

[Elvia1023]

If u need 100mcg the igf is shit, who would want to buy that..

You are wrong. Think about how people dose everything and it will show your thought process is wrong. Just because you can't dose 100mcg or you heard online it's crap if you need more than 50mcg doesn't make it true. There are guys who use 2iu hgh and others who use 40iu, 500mg test and 10g's of test. I have heard of a guy who uses 100iu humalog in 1 shot... not lantus... humalog... not like you have fake humalog all over. Guys use 400mg tabs when someone gets heartburn at 50mg.

I have used multiple brands of LR3 and many were amazing. For one I would crash at 50mcg but I got the dose up to 100mcg. Baring in mind I never dose it daily. 100mcg works out at 50mcg per day for me. I agree 200mcg and I would question it's potency but there are many variables. But working up to 100 or even 150mcg doesn't mean the product is bad.

I mainly use it approx 2 hours post workout now or I wait another hour or so and use it pre bed (I train late). If I don't eat I crash hard but I start eating before I dose it to prevent a bad crash. I literally sometimes have 200g carbs and 50g protein in my meal afterwards and I wake up tighter and fuller. If I dose it earlier I will have 2 separate meals approx 60-120 mins a part that both contain 100-150g carbs.

Now if someone was to just dose 150mcg not eat and go the gym that is completely different but there are ways to maximize it's nutrient partitioning effects. I can only do this when I am lean to begin with.

 

[saffire]

Tried Key Igf1-DES in the calves, god dammit! that was most incredibly painful calf pump, like they gonna explode :star-war:
25mcg split bilaterally IM, I use it with an intra workout shake when taking it before I train. The shake contains 30-45g dextrose, 5-10g bcaa and 10g creatine.
My favorite pre-workout beside adrol/dbol+little cialis.

 

[RamboStallone]

If u need 100mcg the igf is shit, who would want to buy that..

What context is this in? If using 3x a week on training days to maximize recovery like I am doing a 100mcgs is the dose to go with in my opinion. If using daily for fat loss longer term, lower doses can be used.

 

[Movin_weight]

Anybody still adding PEG-MGF to the mix? Always enjoyed the fullness it provided and even solo it seemed to have nutrient shuttling effects. Been off the boards for a minute, but looking to get back on LR3

 

[johnjuanb1]

What context is this in? If using 3x a week on training days to maximize recovery like I am doing a 100mcgs is the dose to go with in my opinion. If using daily for fat loss longer term, lower doses can be used.

I agree totally. I get very full at 40mcg IGF1. Help, my buddy gets full off 10mcg. But i prefer to blast it at 100mcg 3 days a week. I use bacteriostatic water to reconstitute it. 100mcg 3 Days a week lasts 24 days. I don’t want IGF1 reconstituted in water to go more than 30 days max before using it all. I feel using it less frequently works much better than daily use. It just hits harder!

 

[johnjuanb1]

Anybody still adding PEG-MGF to the mix? Always enjoyed the fullness it provided and even solo it seemed to have nutrient shuttling effects. Been off the boards for a minute, but looking to get back on LR3

I never fully understood the proper way to incorporate peg-MGF with IGF1-LR3.
Both run together without a doubt makes sense synergistically, but how do you use them to not let one cancel out the other? Or, since they’re both injected exogenously does timing even matter that much? Usually things administered exogenously do their job regardless i think???
Rambo/Elvia, help please! Hahaha

 

[RamboStallone]

I never noticed anything from peg mud, maybe an increase in recovery. Let's put it this way, it obviously didn't make an impression on me haha. I like the igf, feel and see it working right away.

 

[RamboStallone]

I never noticed anything from peg mud, maybe an increase in recovery. Let's put it this way, it obviously didn't make an impression on me haha. I like the igf, feel and see it working right away.

That was supposed to be mgf not mud lol.

 

[need4tren]

I have been very against igf lr3 in the past but I actually will go back and say I was wrong. It definetly does something. Not saying it raises igf levels but it does partition foood very effectively. I started using 10mcg a day. (Because my lack of faith in it I didn’t want to spend a lot of money)


From convo with my buddy is who an absolute bottom level pro who will never make it anywhere, but still a monster. Peg mgf doesn’t work. Mgf does work. He was using a bottle a day on his arms and felt like it was amazing. But said after he stopped he felt like his body recovery was absolute shit. Does it slow down or play with your own natural mgf production? I’m afraid to find out

 

[johnjuanb1]

I have been very against igf lr3 in the past but I actually will go back and say I was wrong. It definetly does something. Not saying it raises igf levels but it does partition foood very effectively. I started using 10mcg a day. (Because my lack of faith in it I didn’t want to spend a lot of money)


From convo with my buddy is who an absolute bottom level pro who will never make it anywhere, but still a monster. Peg mgf doesn’t work. Mgf does work. He was using a bottle a day on his arms and felt like it was amazing. But said after he stopped he felt like his body recovery was absolute shit. Does it slow down or play with your own natural mgf production? I’m afraid to find out

That’s interesting! Some big boys still use regular mgf. I haven’t tried it but it’s cheap which is nice. Haha
I love IGF1-LR3.
IGF1-LR3 isn’t supposed to raise your IGF1 because it has a difference amino acid chain that the IGF1 produced in the body. IGF1-LR3 has the extra LR3 aminos attached to it so it shouldn’t show on IGF1 testing. Although, when Dr. Alpha6164 tested his IGF1 here it actually did increase which confused him because it shouldn’t in theory.

 

[Elvia1023]

I have been very against igf lr3 in the past but I actually will go back and say I was wrong. It definetly does something. Not saying it raises igf levels but it does partition foood very effectively. I started using 10mcg a day. (Because my lack of faith in it I didn’t want to spend a lot of money)


From convo with my buddy is who an absolute bottom level pro who will never make it anywhere, but still a monster. Peg mgf doesn’t work. Mgf does work. He was using a bottle a day on his arms and felt like it was amazing. But said after he stopped he felt like his body recovery was absolute shit. Does it slow down or play with your own natural mgf production? I’m afraid to find out

I literally just say exactly what I feel/think. Some guys may think he is a rep. But maybe they forget when Superior left I was doing log's of LR3 from various brands I paid for. I get aas and hgh for free. Not bragging but just being open because of the work I do I can order what I want. I write that to prove a point as I will still go out of my way and buy lr3 from unknown sites. Now peptidetech are back I will try their lr3 but it will be an experiment as I don't know how good it is. I have literally paid 23 euro for lr3 off some random site and it was good. I don't understand the logic either. Obviously the brands that were the best cost more but there is good lr3 out there.

Anyway my point being LR3 really is one of the best things I have ever used. If we all had to pick just 5 drugs we could use lr3 would be in my list. It would be ahead of hgh and lr3. Plus the main seller I rep for sells both of those and no lr3... I have asked him to get it though

Guys may use it and it's crap I don't know. But the protocol I listed above on a lean physique with a shitload of carbs works wonders if done correctly. So many experts say lr3 is useless and this and that. I have no reason to lie just telling you how I feel about it.

I recall you posting about it in the past but can't remember the details (not good posts though). So although I couldn't care less who does what I like that you may have changed your mind. Plus you only started at 10mcg? What dose did you max out at? I generally take lower doses but with lr3 I like to push it. But 50mcg is plenty as well. Maybe you can try it at a higher dose one day and see what difference it brings. Whatever dose you decide to do daily I would recommend doubling it and dosing it eod instead

When I get my LR3 I am thinking start at 50mcg to access. Although I may just do 100mcg and see how hard the crash is

 

[Elvia1023]

I never noticed anything from peg mud, maybe an increase in recovery. Let's put it this way, it obviously didn't make an impression on me haha. I like the igf, feel and see it working right away.

I have been very against igf lr3 in the past but I actually will go back and say I was wrong. It definetly does something. Not saying it raises igf levels but it does partition foood very effectively. I started using 10mcg a day. (Because my lack of faith in it I didn’t want to spend a lot of money)


From convo with my buddy is who an absolute bottom level pro who will never make it anywhere, but still a monster. Peg mgf doesn’t work. Mgf does work. He was using a bottle a day on his arms and felt like it was amazing. But said after he stopped he felt like his body recovery was absolute shit. Does it slow down or play with your own natural mgf production? I’m afraid to find out

I have never used MGF but I have used PEG MGF. The science is there and it makes me think it would be worth using long term. However as Rambo posted when I used it I didn't notice anything apart from improved recovery. Science suggests it would be great with igf-1. It's hard to say it would be great when you use it and don't notice any improvements in your physique from it in a few weeks. If anything else done that you would think throw it.

When I just ordered last I got lr3 and cjc-dac. Then healing peps as I need them. MT2 like every order in the past. I wanted to add PEG MGF but the list was getting big so I left it out. It's happened a few times in the past were I nearly get it but by no means is it needed. As Rambo stated you notice lr3 straightaway (well I do). PEG MGF you don't notice but perhaps it would be useful in the long run with igf-1 mixed in. If you have spare cash maybe try it but I wouldn't have it as a standalone pep or anything like that.

 

[Thebigone]

I literally just say exactly what I feel/think. Some guys may think he is a rep. But maybe they forget when Superior left I was doing log's of LR3 from various brands I paid for. I get aas and hgh for free. Not bragging but just being open because of the work I do I can order what I want. I write that to prove a point as I will still go out of my way and buy lr3 from unknown sites. Now peptidetech are back I will try their lr3 but it will be an experiment as I don't know how good it is. I have literally paid 23 euro for lr3 off some random site and it was good. I don't understand the logic either. Obviously the brands that were the best cost more but there is good lr3 out there.

Anyway my point being LR3 really is one of the best things I have ever used. If we all had to pick just 5 drugs we could use lr3 would be in my list. It would be ahead of hgh and lr3. Plus the main seller I rep for sells both of those and no lr3... I have asked him to get it though

Guys may use it and it's crap I don't know. But the protocol I listed above on a lean physique with a shitload of carbs works wonders if done correctly. So many experts say lr3 is useless and this and that. I have no reason to lie just telling you how I feel about it.

I recall you posting about it in the past but can't remember the details (not good posts though). So although I couldn't care less who does what I like that you may have changed your mind. Plus you only started at 10mcg? What dose did you max out at? I generally take lower doses but with lr3 I like to push it. But 50mcg is plenty as well. Maybe you can try it at a higher dose one day and see what difference it brings. Whatever dose you decide to do daily I would recommend doubling it and dosing it eod instead

When I get my LR3 I am thinking start at 50mcg to access. Although I may just do 100mcg and see how hard the crash is

Same here! If I could only pick 5 it would be Test, Adex, hgh, igf and insulin.

 

[Elvia1023]

Same here! If I could only pick 5 it would be Test, Adex, hgh, igf and insulin.

I never have really thought I just knew it would be in my top 5. Although thinking now if I could only pick 5 things to ever run again it would be test, tren, avar, lr3 and not to sure about the 5th. I suppose aromasin or even nolva make sense like in your list. But if serms/ai's didn't count I would probably go with adrol. HGH makes me too tired otherwise that may have gotten 5th spot.

 

[concreter]

Last weekend I dosed 100 mcgs Thursday and Friday in an attempt to Dial in for the weekend.
My Big mistake was cutting down on the Carbs. Although I weighed in at 255 Saturday I appeared Flat!
Just a reminder that you need plenty of clean carbs to feed LR3.

 

[need4tren]

That’s interesting! Some big boys still use regular mgf. I haven’t tried it but it’s cheap which is nice. Haha
I love IGF1-LR3.
IGF1-LR3 isn’t supposed to raise your IGF1 because it has a difference amino acid chain that the IGF1 produced in the body. IGF1-LR3 has the extra LR3 aminos attached to it so it shouldn’t show on IGF1 testing. Although, when Dr. Alpha6164 tested his IGF1 here it actually did increase which confused him because it shouldn’t in theory.

A lot of big boys I know use mgf. But then again their genetics are far superior to mine. And there always trying for bigger arms. A few I know who use it are 21-22 inches and they swear by it. They only use mgf no igf or des. No peg mgf either.