what to use for pre workout pump?

[gunz78]

a while ago a friend suggested i add 25mgs of viagra to my pre workout along with the NYC stack... ive never had better pumps than taking this combo! i felt like it probably wasnt a good idea to stay on this stack longterm for health reasons... so my question is there anything i can take to give me the same pumps? ive tried no explode, superpump, white blood, etc... they were all ok but nothing like what i previously mentioned... let me know guys

 

[BillHilton]

The same, maybe not. But citrulline malate is very good for pumps.

 

[sammy555]

for me its igf des or 2-3 iu gh pre workout-a few hours after a good carby morning breakfast. I dont use them for the pumps but the pumps are intense

 

[gunz78]

i have always taken my gh pre workout i know a lot of guys dont do it this way but it works very nicely for me!

 

[jimmyjones]

Dbol @ 25mg 3 hours before your workout, and it will shit on everything else

 

[Gunsmith]

50-60g carbs 2hrs pre workout
3 ounces vanilla LBA's , 6 ounces Pedialyte , 1 teaspoon sea salt mixed with 10-12 ounces water.
Drink half just before training when you shoot 100mcg igf-DES and sip the rest during training.

NOTHING has given me better pumps , not D-Bol , test Acetate , Viagra , nothing. Got a pump so hard yesterday doing chest it felt like i was gonna tear somthing

 

[gunz78]

what is vanilla LBA? and can i sub igf des for igf Lr3?

 

[swolegasm]

what is vanilla LBA? and can i sub igf des for igf Lr3?

Liquid Beef Aminos

 

[TeknoViking]

One scoop karbolyn, couple servings of leas, 400mcg igf des split

 

[TeknoViking]

Lbas

 

[1badboy]

IGF-DES

hands down- IGF-DES (not -LR3). I've tried most everything and I like 150 - 200 mcg DES 15 - 60min b4 workout. Have some carbs during workout- maybe w/ eloctrolytes (gatorade + LBAs is what I like).

For me, GH gives me no real pump- plus it take months to kick in. DES is immediate and way better than NO/ED stuff, for me. And I used dbol back in the day and loved that pump, but DES is better.

 

[TeknoViking]

1badboy try shooting your des rite before you go to the gym i think you will benefit more from it.

 

[batman]

I have read where guys are shooting the IGF-DES into the muscle they are going to train to help more, anyone know of this?

 

[aphextwin]

Glyco- Carn

Never used IGF Des but sure would like to give it a try. I know most everyone here is talking about drugs, but I have found that 4 grams of Glyco-carn seems to produce great muscle pumps, so if you are looking to go the natural route, give it a try. However, it's a little pricey.

 

[TeknoViking]

I have read where guys are shooting the IGF-DES into the muscle they are going to train to help more, anyone know of this?

this is what I do as well as many others.

 

[Big L]

Glycoget and EVP by Evogen

 

[1badboy]

I have read where guys are shooting the IGF-DES into the muscle they are going to train to help more, anyone know of this?

in my experience- it's more of an inflammation if anything- I would shoot sub-q (systemic effects) and I'm sure effects would be good. Why don't we ever hear of guys shooting this in their calves if it is so site-specific? No, I have not tried that- I value the ability to walk LOL.

 

[Tom]

i'm a little curious here. since a pumped muscle has nothing to do with actual muscle growth, why take anything at all? you could put the money you spend on pump products to much better use and get the same gains in the gym.

 

[Ashop]

50-60g carbs 2hrs pre workout
3 ounces vanilla LBA's , 6 ounces Pedialyte , 1 teaspoon sea salt mixed with 10-12 ounces water.
Drink half just before training when you shoot 100mcg igf-DES and sip the rest during training.

NOTHING has given me better pumps , not D-Bol , test Acetate , Viagra , nothing. Got a pump so hard yesterday doing chest it felt like i was gonna tear somthing

Thats an interesting cocktail.

 

[ztinman]

I like glycocarn, bcaas and some glycerol an hour preworkout.