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Who has switched to a non-inflammatory diet?

Thebigone

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I've exhausted all efforts trying to find out what's wrong with me for the past few years of constantly just feeling like crap. Malaise and body aches. I have a psychiatrist, hematologist, gastroenterologist, cardiologist, and now my most recent visit was to a rheumatologist. She thinks I might have chronic fatigue syndrome but she says she doesn't know how that's possible since I am a fairly lean 250 pounds. She just ran a muscle enzymes test and an A1 C I think it's called and a couple other tests that I haven't done myself all these years. I have a friend who was going through the same thing as me and his life completely turned around the past three months from switching to a non-inflammatory keto diet. He specializes in training clients to get healthy while still maintaining their physique the best way possible. He basically told me meat and whey proteins are highly acidic and what he does now is he only uses plant-based protein with plant-based amino acids added to it to make it a complete protein. He only has about 200 g of protein per day, 200g healthy fats and only about 100 or less carbs only coming from coconut water, fruits and vegetables. Only has one meal per day the contains meat and only eats from the hours of 8 AM to 8 PM. I think I'm highly acidic because my C-reactive protein tested in range but on the high-end of the range and he's telling me that I probably am extremely acidic, especially since I have a hiatel hernia and have very high inflammation which is what's causing me to feel like absolute shit all the time. That might make sense because when I take ibuprofen I feel completely better but if I take Tylenol I don't feel any better at all. So basically he's going to have me do a three day cleanse with water Cayanne pepper lemon juice but still eat a lot of vegetables during that time then I'm switching over to his diet which is basically 200 g of fat from all healthy fats 200 g of protein and minimal carbs. He says it's physically impossible to lose muscle if you're eating that much fat. I'm curious if anybody here went this route, the noninflammatory route, cut out whey protein added plant protein cut out lots of meat and added ketones to the diet. What did you notice differently about your physique and how did you feel? Thanks
 

emcewen

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Friend, have you looked into your sleep cycle? Being 250lbs and fairly lean is a lot of stress in your body when sleeping, I know personally for me at 240, I have to have the right support or I'm fucked when I wake up, literally feel like my shoulders and sternum have been compressed or stretched.

I still have to go in for apnea but you might want to take that route

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I've exhausted all efforts trying to find out what's wrong with me for the past few years of constantly just feeling like crap. Malaise and body aches. I have a psychiatrist, hematologist, gastroenterologist, cardiologist, and now my most recent visit was to a rheumatologist. She thinks I might have chronic fatigue syndrome but she says she doesn't know how that's possible since I am a fairly lean 250 pounds. She just ran a muscle enzymes test and an A1 C I think it's called and a couple other tests that I haven't done myself all these years. I have a friend who was going through the same thing as me and his life completely turned around the past three months from switching to a non-inflammatory keto diet. He specializes in training clients to get healthy while still maintaining their physique the best way possible. He basically told me meat and whey proteins are highly acidic and what he does now is he only uses plant-based protein with plant-based amino acids added to it to make it a complete protein. He only has about 200 g of protein per day, 200g healthy fats and only about 100 or less carbs only coming from coconut water, fruits and vegetables. Only has one meal per day the contains meat and only eats from the hours of 8 AM to 8 PM. I think I'm highly acidic because my C-reactive protein tested in range but on the high-end of the range and he's telling me that I probably am extremely acidic, especially since I have a hiatel hernia and have very high inflammation which is what's causing me to feel like absolute shit all the time. That might make sense because when I take ibuprofen I feel completely better but if I take Tylenol I don't feel any better at all. So basically he's going to have me do a three day cleanse with water Cayanne pepper lemon juice but still eat a lot of vegetables during that time then I'm switching over to his diet which is basically 200 g of fat from all healthy fats 200 g of protein and minimal carbs. He says it's physically impossible to lose muscle if you're eating that much fat. I'm curious if anybody here went this route, the noninflammatory route, cut out whey protein added plant protein cut out lots of meat and added ketones to the diet. What did you notice differently about your physique and how did you feel? Thanks
100 grams of carbs a day is not keto....its just extremely low carb. And those cayenne vinegar cleanses are about as bogus as it gets
 

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My whole life changed after learning about nutrition. One of the first things I realized is that you cannot listen to a specialist trained for trauma about nutrition and prevention because is not his/her field. Once I stopped listening to medical doctors and listening to specialists in nutrition, I discovered a whole new universe. Now I feel better than when I was 18, and my body performs better than an 18 year old. The few people around me that I have advised the same things have seen changes that could be considered "miraculous" but in reality there is no miracle. Is just nutritional science.

A "non-inflamattory diet" is just the tip of the iceberg on a diet. I wouldnt even consider that a "diet" lol.

This is based only on my own personal experience, if you want me to share more with you PM me.
 

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What have you got to lose by trying it? Seems reasonable to me except the cleanse but I'd view that as a fast. You can get off at any time and everyone's going to have an opinion.
 

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Friend, have you looked into your sleep cycle? Being 250lbs and fairly lean is a lot of stress in your body when sleeping, I know personally for me at 240, I have to have the right support or I'm fucked when I wake up, literally feel like my shoulders and sternum have been compressed or stretched.

I still have to go in for apnea but you might want to take that route

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Yes I've had a C-pap for 5yrs
 

Thebigone

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This is what he recommends


Wake up (7am) drink 16oz chicken bone broth with 15g plant based glutamine


10am later drink 1 tablespoon apple cider vinegar mixed in 16oz water. Wait 20 min drink this:
- 12oz extra strong black coffee
- 1.5 tablespoons mct oil
- 2 tablespoons organic grass fed butter
- 10g bhb salts (keytones)

- drink 15g plant based BCAA


12pm. green smoothie (makes 2 shakes)
5 large handfuls of kale
5 large handfuls of power greens
1 cup broccoli sprouts
3 tablespoons hemp seeds
3 tablespoons chia seeds
2 cups frozen organic blueberries
1 cup frozen pineapple
1 cup fresh squeezed lemon juice
1/2 cup cranberry juice not from concentrate
1/2 cup organic whole Greek yogurt
3 scoops mixed greens alkaline powder
2 scoops plant based protein
1 tablespoon beet root powder
1 tablespoon cordecyps mushroom powder
1/2 teaspoon spirulina
1/4 teaspoon ashwaghanda


Train 2pm while training drink 20oz coconut water and 15g plant based EAA/BCAA mixture, 15g plant based glutamine


3-4pm Post workout- other half of green drink

If needed later start with coffee:
8oz black coffee
1 tablespoon mct oil
2 tablespoons grass fed butter
10g keytones salts

4 whole omega 3 eggs, 5-7 slices organic bacon, 1/2 cup chopped spinach, 1/2 cup chopped mushroom, pico de gallo.

- drink 1.5 tablespoons apple cider vinegar mixed in 16oz water

Last meal:
5oz 85/15 grass fed ground beef patty, 1oz organic grass fed cheddar cheese, 2 slices bacon, 2oz avocado, lettuce wrapped.  Plus, large mix green salad with 1/2 cup feta cheese crumbles, hard boiled egg crumbles, bacon crumbles, lots of olive oil and sugar free balsamic for dressing


Other:

Daily-
1.25 gallons water
Atleast 7 hours sleep
Lightly use pink salt on all solid food meals
2 cheat meals a week. Both on sat.

Health supplements:
- plant based multi vitamin/mineral
- turmeric by youtheory
- hydrolyzed collagen by youtheory
- prostate plus by trunature
- 10000iu vit D
- NAC 600mg
- tudca 600mg
- probiotic 100billion
- omega 3 and 6.... take 3,000mg of each 3x day
- ubiquinol 200mg 2x day
- phosphatidylserine 800mg 2x day
- vit b12 5000mcg 2x day
- l tyrosine 1000mg 3x day between meals on empty
- l theanine 1000mg 2x day post workout and before bed
 

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Fook, well that doesn't give me much hope for myself lol

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Dr. told me I had one of the worst cases of sleep apnea he's ever seen. Got on the C-pap got tested all the time and no more episodes and really I didn't notice that much of a difference of how I felt. I was pissed I thought I was going to feel amazing and pack on a ton of muscle that I was wasting before from all that oxygen loss LOL
 

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I have eaten antiinflammatory before and felt great. I stayed very lean, felt very healthy and had great numbers on blood tests and blood pressure. The diet was high nutrient and low calorie. Basically almost all veggies with nuts and fruits, not keto at all. I did a lot of fasting at that time. I did this to heal from an injury and it worked well.

I kind of found a balance between a bodybuilding diet and a antiinflammatory diet that fits me well. I also am not afraid to indulge when I want but also become very strict if I have health goals to achieve. I just went over blood work with my doctor today and my numbers were great.

I say read up and try experimenting with the antiinflammatory diet. I bet you will find some benefit. Don't be afraid to loose some weight but you can always gain it back when you feel better or recovered.
 

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That above diet looks rediculous to me. I make a kale smoothie every morning and you would spend an hour making the above recipe. It doesn't need to be rocket science and a strict list of ingredients. Basically high nutrient and low calorie is what you are looking for; fruits, veggies and nuts and very small amount of everything else.
 

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Dr. told me I had one of the worst cases of sleep apnea he's ever seen. Got on the C-pap got tested all the time and no more episodes and really I didn't notice that much of a difference of how I felt. I was pissed I thought I was going to feel amazing and pack on a ton of muscle that I was wasting before from all that oxygen loss LOL
My thoughts too! I keep kicking myself when I wake up all fucked and totally blame it on sleep apnea.

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Thebigone

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First just try dropping wheat and dairy.

My gastro tested me for gliadin, stool sample and like 3 other blood tests to see if I had any food allergies and they all came back normal. No gluten or dairy Allergies which is weird because if I have any more than one scoop of a high-quality whey isolate per day I have runny shit all day long yet I can eat 2 pounds of meat in a day and have a completely normal stool. It's also weird that 10 years ago I could take in 200 g of whey and had no stomach issues or diarrhea but now that I'm in my mid-30s I can't.
 
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Thebigone

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My thoughts too! I keep kicking myself when I wake up all fucked and totally blame it on sleep apnea.

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My doctor said almost all bodybuilders who are over 200 pounds more than likely have sleep apnea esp if using GH. so it's not a bad idea to still get tested because who knows what could have happened if I didn't get the machine years ago regardless of how I feel.
 

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I try to eat as non inflammatory as possible. Sometimes I'll cheat but nothing in my kitchen that I eat will cause any sort of inflammation. It also helps with the supplements I take that keep it down as well.
 

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This is what he recommends


Wake up (7am) drink 16oz chicken bone broth with 15g plant based glutamine


10am later drink 1 tablespoon apple cider vinegar mixed in 16oz water. Wait 20 min drink this:
- 12oz extra strong black coffee
- 1.5 tablespoons mct oil
- 2 tablespoons organic grass fed butter
- 10g bhb salts (keytones)

- drink 15g plant based BCAA


12pm. green smoothie (makes 2 shakes)
5 large handfuls of kale
5 large handfuls of power greens
1 cup broccoli sprouts
3 tablespoons hemp seeds
3 tablespoons chia seeds
2 cups frozen organic blueberries
1 cup frozen pineapple
1 cup fresh squeezed lemon juice
1/2 cup cranberry juice not from concentrate
1/2 cup organic whole Greek yogurt
3 scoops mixed greens alkaline powder
2 scoops plant based protein
1 tablespoon beet root powder
1 tablespoon cordecyps mushroom powder
1/2 teaspoon spirulina
1/4 teaspoon ashwaghanda


Train 2pm while training drink 20oz coconut water and 15g plant based EAA/BCAA mixture, 15g plant based glutamine


3-4pm Post workout- other half of green drink

If needed later start with coffee:
8oz black coffee
1 tablespoon mct oil
2 tablespoons grass fed butter
10g keytones salts

4 whole omega 3 eggs, 5-7 slices organic bacon, 1/2 cup chopped spinach, 1/2 cup chopped mushroom, pico de gallo.

- drink 1.5 tablespoons apple cider vinegar mixed in 16oz water

Last meal:
5oz 85/15 grass fed ground beef patty, 1oz organic grass fed cheddar cheese, 2 slices bacon, 2oz avocado, lettuce wrapped.  Plus, large mix green salad with 1/2 cup feta cheese crumbles, hard boiled egg crumbles, bacon crumbles, lots of olive oil and sugar free balsamic for dressing


Other:

Daily-
1.25 gallons water
Atleast 7 hours sleep
Lightly use pink salt on all solid food meals
2 cheat meals a week. Both on sat.

Health supplements:
- plant based multi vitamin/mineral
- turmeric by youtheory
- hydrolyzed collagen by youtheory
- prostate plus by trunature
- 10000iu vit D
- NAC 600mg
- tudca 600mg
- probiotic 100billion
- omega 3 and 6.... take 3,000mg of each 3x day
- ubiquinol 200mg 2x day
- phosphatidylserine 800mg 2x day
- vit b12 5000mcg 2x day
- l tyrosine 1000mg 3x day between meals on empty
- l theanine 1000mg 2x day post workout and before bed

Sounds interesting. Is the post-workout meal, only the 1/2 of the green shake, then a couple of hours later the eggs with bacon and veggies?

Is the diet designed for a 250 pounder?
 

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