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You guys on finasteride still blasting?

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Been on fina a few months, seems to be starting to work which is great but I’ve basically eliminated most of the AAS I can use.... all the heavy androgens are out, Deca is out, high test IMO is still really risky...

It seems like the three safest options are 1. Low test cycle (350-400), 2. Low-Moderate anavar only cycle or 3. Maybe some of the SARMS

I don’t have the funds for real anavar right now, not a huge test fan as I’m super e2 sensitive.... which leaves the SARM. Ostarine seems safe but rather useless, LGD seems like the least risky of the ones that work better

Curious what you guys are doing
 

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Been on fina a few months, seems to be starting to work which is great but I’ve basically eliminated most of the AAS I can use.... all the heavy androgens are out, Deca is out, high test IMO is still really risky...

It seems like the three safest options are 1. Low test cycle (350-400), 2. Low-Moderate anavar only cycle or 3. Maybe some of the SARMS

I don’t have the funds for real anavar right now, not a huge test fan as I’m super e2 sensitive.... which leaves the SARM. Ostarine seems safe but rather useless, LGD seems like the least risky of the ones that work better

Curious what you guys are doing
superdrol, turinabol and EQ should also be mild on the hairline.
 

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Save up a little longer and take more Anavar, my last run i did high dose anavar and good god did i see results. Better than tren, tren just makes me big it doesn’t necessarily make me look good. On the var i looked like a Greek god walking around, very pleasing look.

I wish I didn’t had to come off.....
 

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Rad140 just passed a human trial, dosed under 100mg a day. It's the only so called non steroidal SARM that gets into the area we're looking for. YK kind of works, but it's really just a synthetic steroid.
For the discussion, we used to talk the fine points of oxandrolone where it modulates the corticoid receptor through cross talk with the androgen receptor. Now RAD has us talking about this "crosstalk" again, only with the estrogen receptor.
 

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Rad140 just passed a human trial, dosed under 100mg a day. It's the only so called non steroidal SARM that gets into the area we're looking for. YK kind of works, but it's really just a synthetic steroid.
For the discussion, we used to talk the fine points of oxandrolone where it modulates the corticoid receptor through cross talk with the androgen receptor. Now RAD has us talking about this "crosstalk" again, only with the estrogen receptor.
any good discussion about that you can point me toward? I just looked up the dose escalation study from May 2020 and it looks interesting. 150mg per day for ~58 year olds! :O
 

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Have to go back to the drawing board, forgot all about superdrol, and RAD-140 I wasn’t looking into because it seems more androgenic than most but I’ve never used a SARM so I will see. I’ve actually never used anavar either so I do have to tick that one off the bucket list at some point
 

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Rad140 just passed a human trial, dosed under 100mg a day. It's the only so called non steroidal SARM that gets into the area we're looking for. YK kind of works, but it's really just a synthetic steroid.
For the discussion, we used to talk the fine points of oxandrolone where it modulates the corticoid receptor through cross talk with the androgen receptor. Now RAD has us talking about this "crosstalk" again, only with the estrogen receptor.
Are you saying RAD-140 seems to be safe for the hair line?
 

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any good discussion about that you can point me toward? I just looked up the dose escalation study from May 2020 and it looks interesting. 150mg per day for ~58 year olds! :O
What, the "crosstalk" part? It's being investigated as something like a full blown estrogen modulator in breast cancer patients while obviously helping to maintain muscle mass. They address the ER crosstalk in those studies if you can find them. I think I'll look it up again tomorrow. Crosstalk can get messy to understand because of the multiplicity of cofactors, response elements, etc. I need to go over it again.
The May study clarified some of RAD's dosing parameters, but it further questions the accepted half life. Regardless, from several perspectives RAD is useful as thought of a modulating adjunct to steroids or an anabolic of it's own.
 

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superdrol, turinabol and EQ should also be mild on the hairline.
I know Superdrol it's supposed to be easy on the hairline an is even a steroid that women can use (at 1-2mg per day)

However last time I ran SD my hair started falling out like it would on halo
 

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Are you saying RAD-140 seems to be safe for the hair line?
Hair always depends on a confluence of hormones and factors, including inflammation. For me, the hair thing is more complex than a simple answer like that. However, if anything would be safe it would "seem" that Rad would, yet I'd like to see research on it's particular action in follicles.
 

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Hair always depends on a confluence of hormones and factors, including inflammation. For me, the hair thing is more complex than a simple answer like that. However, if anything would be safe it would "seem" that Rad would, yet I'd like to see research on it's particular action in follicles.
Interesting info. Everything I've always read on RAD-140 is that it causes hair loss, but this was just general information.
 

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I too felt superdrol made me lose hair as well as 1test cypionate. Not super aggressive but still.
 

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What, the "crosstalk" part? It's being investigated as something like a full blown estrogen modulator in breast cancer patients while obviously helping to maintain muscle mass. They address the ER crosstalk in those studies if you can find them. I think I'll look it up again tomorrow. Crosstalk can get messy to understand because of the multiplicity of cofactors, response elements, etc. I need to go over it again.
The May study clarified some of RAD's dosing parameters, but it further questions the accepted half life. Regardless, from several perspectives RAD is useful as thought of a modulating adjunct to steroids or an anabolic of it's own.
is it more than just mega dosing RAD crashes endogenous hormone production (hence estrogen) and reduces estrogenic breast tumors because hormone levels drop??? Does RAD actually act as an antagonist/agonist at ER?
 

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