YOUR thoughts on this co's claim on egg whites?

[B~RAD]

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They say that they are completely boiavailable and that you would absorb the same amount of protein drinking them raw as you would with cooking them. I was always told the opposite. What's the truth?

 

[Oldlifter]

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They say that they are completely boiavailable and that you would absorb the same amount of protein drinking them raw as you would with cooking them. I was always told the opposite. What's the truth?

Well, I haven't been to a research facility to determine for sure, however, I've been eating raw egg whites ever since (right at 25 years or so) I watched the first Rocky movie. I haven't had a problem yet. I can always feel my muscles fill when I drink them. I do it both ways, raw and pasteurized. Can't say if I'm getting 100% absorption or not, I know one thing tho, I do gain and stay fuller by using them, than not.

 

[Bionic]

I believe the pasteurization process is what makes them bioavailable and avoids the biotin issue.

 

[Badapple]

Raw eggs have avidin, which counters biotin, which keeps your body from taking in all of the available protien. Cooking or heating denatures the protien and changes the avidin. The yolks have a high amount of biotin which would make eating whole raw eggs more effective than raw whites as far as protien goes.

 

[B~RAD]

Raw eggs have avidin, which counters biotin, which keeps your body from taking in all of the available protien. Cooking or heating denatures the protien and changes the avidin. The yolks have a high amount of biotin which would make eating whole raw eggs more effective than raw whites as far as protien goes.

I've NEVER heard that before? Only the exact opposite

 

[kingpeon]

Wow! The raw egg "situation" rambles on. What is complicated about any of it? Whole raw eggs of any number taken daily poses no problem. Raw egg whites taken without yolk or fat poses a problem. So always try to take the yolk as raw as possible and if you like, cook the white. I like to make an egg white raw cheese omelet out of all the whites with habanero salsa on top from a dozen pet chicken eggs. And then drop the yolks on some lightly toasted, heavily raw buttered, 7 grain Ezekial bread. Simple 1000 calorie grub. Man, it's great to be one of us!

 

[B~RAD]

thanks!

 

[SitySlicker1]

Raw eggs have avidin, which counters biotin, which keeps your body from taking in all of the available protien. Cooking or heating denatures the protien and changes the avidin. The yolks have a high amount of biotin which would make eating whole raw eggs more effective than raw whites as far as protien goes.

I understand this concept, but I have a question that only Dante may be able to answer...

He offers egg whites and whole egg protein powders. From my undstanding this is a great source of protein. The question is, are these eggs whites (or whole eggs) cooked before they are dehydrated and turned into protein powder or are they dehydrated in their raw form?
If its the later of the two, I don't see why the BV would be any less unless their is heat involved in the dehydration process.

 

[mike913]

I believe the pasteurization process is what makes them bioavailable and avoids the biotin issue.

yup...the egg whites I buy at wal-mart are pasteurized and you can eat them "raw"...they even have recipes for smoothy shakes lol.

 

[gstracer]

ive been buying those egg wite from them for a few years now, i deff like them and its very convenient to whip up an egg white shake with those then to crack eggs in a glass and worry about getting salmonella poisoning

 

[natabolic]

yup...the egg whites I buy at wal-mart are pasteurized and you can eat them "raw"...they even have recipes for smoothy shakes lol.

even though those cartons of egg whites have been pasteurized, it doesnt fully denature avidin, so if youre consuming large quantities of those egg whites, the biotin deficiency issue could still arise.

 

[natabolic]

Raw eggs have avidin, which counters biotin, which keeps your body from taking in all of the available protien. Cooking or heating denatures the protien and changes the avidin. The yolks have a high amount of biotin which would make eating whole raw eggs more effective than raw whites as far as protien goes.

i also fully agree with this.

 

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[aeliop]

Well, I haven't been to a research facility to determine for sure, however, I've been eating raw egg whites ever since (right at 25 years or so) I watched the first Rocky movie. I haven't had a problem yet. I can always feel my muscles fill when I drink them. I do it both ways, raw and pasteurized. Can't say if I'm getting 100% absorption or not, I know one thing tho, I do gain and stay fuller by using them, than not.

Within an egg here is a big difference between a raw yolk and a raw egg white

 

[Oldlifter]

Within an egg here is a big difference between a raw yolk and a raw egg white

Insight? I need to clarify. When I eat them raw, I eat the yoke as well. The pasterized whites are what I eat by themselves.

What should I be worried about, Aeliop?




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[aeliop]

Just my opinion

Insight? I need to clarify. When I eat them raw, I eat the yoke as well. The pasterized whites are what I eat by themselves.

What should I be worried about, Aeliop?




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as mentioned earlier by badapple the Avidin that is in the egg whites. This could conceivably block some or all of your protein absorbtion. In a nutshell drinking 16oz of egg whites and thinking that you are getting roughly 48grams of Protein when in fact you might be only getting a portion of that.

The yolks on the other hand (especially if they are free range but that is a debate for another thread) are best consumed raw or slightly cooked.

Rule of thumb cook the eggwhites drink the yolks or somewhere in between.

The great Vince Gironda had a method for cooking eggs that he called his $1000 secret. He often said that it was worth $1000 to people but free for his clients.

 

[Oldlifter]

as mentioned earlier by badapple the Avidin that is in the egg whites. This could conceivably block some or all of your protein absorbtion. I

I gotcha! So the yolk being consumed with the raw whites wouldn't negate this idea?

n a nutshell drinking 16oz of egg whites and thinking that you are getting roughly 48grams of Protein when in fact you might be only getting a portion of that. Rule of thumb cook the eggwhites drink the yolks or somewhere in between.

Even if they are pasturized?

The great Vince Gironda had a method for cooking eggs that he called his $1000 secret. He often said that it was worth $1000 to people but free for his clients.

I can see why! Thanks for you input!




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[aeliop]

I gotcha! So the yolk being consumed with the raw whites wouldn't negate this idea?
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Well you would still get the benefit of the raw yolk but you might not get anything from the whites.

Even if they are pasturized?

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The pasturization process does not produce enough heat to kill the Avidim

I can see why! Thanks for you input!
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Yes some off us "old school" guys on the board follow a lot of Old Vinces stuff. Iabadman could tell you anything and everything you would ever want to know about him.

 

[Oldlifter]

The pasturization process does not produce enough heat to kill the Avidim.

Well, I'll be dammed if I do or If I don't! *LOL* I guess it wouldn't do any good to tell you that I've read "scientific studies" saying the opposite. "100% absorption", they (studies) say.

Anyway, I'm confused for show now! I swear tho, it seems like I get one hellacious fill from doing this. Thanx for the info, Aeliop, I think?





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[aeliop]

Well, I'll be dammed if I do or If I don't! *LOL* I guess it wouldn't do any good to tell you that I've read "scientific studies" saying the opposite. "100% absorption", they (studies) say.

Anyway, I'm confused for show now! I swear tho, it seems like I get one hellacious fill from doing this. Thanx for the info, Aeliop, I think?
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Like I said it is just my opinion. I would encourgage you to try it both ways and see which one works the best for you.