Anyone have experience using both? Did you notice a difference?
Price difference between a cycle is huge. Trying to see if it’s justifiable to pay more for pharmaceutical grade.
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I've never run Organon Deca....but just think about this question for a second. It depends entirely on the UGL. Any time you compare Pharma to UGL you have to think about a trusted sponsor as well as cost. What is a bigger priority to you?
The good thing is that Deca is cheap to make and isn't faked very often so more than likely its just going to depend on HOW much deca you are actually getting in the UGL. Basically how accurate the mg/ml is.
Do you want to be safe and pay more?
Do you want to risk getting a little less and save $$$?
That's the question...
I've never run Organon Deca....but just think about this question for a second. It depends entirely on the UGL. Any time you compare Pharma to UGL you have to think about a trusted sponsor as well as cost. What is a bigger priority to you?
The good thing is that Deca is cheap to make and isn't faked very often so more than likely its just going to depend on HOW much deca you are actually getting in the UGL. Basically how accurate the mg/ml is.
Do you want to be safe and pay more?
Do you want to risk getting a little less and save $$$?
That's the question...
I've never run Organon Deca....but just think about this question for a second. It depends entirely on the UGL. Any time you compare Pharma to UGL you have to think about a trusted sponsor as well as cost. What is a bigger priority to you?
The good thing is that Deca is cheap to make and isn't faked very often so more than likely its just going to depend on HOW much deca you are actually getting in the UGL. Basically how accurate the mg/ml is.
Do you want to be safe and pay more?
Do you want to risk getting a little less and save $$$?
That's the question...
I get where you’re coming from on the “Deca is cheap to make” theory but so is Test and Sponsors are ripping people off even on that...
I got bloodwork done on a sponsor here and came out pretty accurately dosed as a TRT and I’m happy but I think I’m going to start putting some money aside to stock up on Pharma Test..
My advice to OP is if you haven’t stocked up on any specific UGL I would spend a little more and be safe.. Yea Organon/Pharma Deca is usually 100mg/ml at the same cost Sponsors ADVERTISE 300mg/ml... But that’s just it, an advertisement... If people are faking/underdosing simple Test then be sure they’re going to fake/underdose Deca and everything else...
You might be surprised @ what a LEGIT 200mg of Deca per week can do when everyone THINKS they’re running 400mg+ etc..
But I personally have never run Deca, only UGL NPP in a blend from a sponsor that tested well...
And that's why depends on the UGL.
If you use a new Sponsor with a few pages of reviews, I'd be very skeptical on "really good pricing." But if you are using a lab that you've researched, read reviews, is trusted and been around the block, maybe that could ease your mind.
Hell, I've PM'd trusted guys on here asking about sponsors and what they thought. If you choose your coach wisely, you should choose your gear and sponsor just as wisely.
"a guy i knew" at one time was a sponsor on a board. like the naive fool that he was, he dosed everything as accurately as possible. Reviews from guys started rolling in "its gotta be over dosed" "strongest stuff i ever used" tons and tons of comments like that. and all that was really goin on is it was accurately dosed. that said volumes to me bout how most UGL's operate.:lightbulb:
its unregulated and they can make waaaay more by under dosing or even using a diff compound altogether. why wouldnt they?
-F2S
True but I can also imagine with the lab testing now going on on several boards (which I applaud), that they don't want to be the one who got outted for selling underdosed crap. Once you get that label, it's goodbye to your image for good and goodbye to selling a lot for good as well.
UGl mans can’t create the patented Deca-Durabolin like the original manufacturer can. Having the same quality raw materials and lab controls.....not going to happen.
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UGl mans can’t create the patented Deca-Durabolin like the original manufacturer can. Having the same quality raw materials and lab controls.....not going to happen.
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FALSE. Provided the raws are pure and it's been properly made (solvents/filtration/dosed properly) I think little difference between pharm grade and UGL.
Where do you think the pharm companies get there raws from?
Plus you asked in the beginning that you were trying to decide but then reply that UGL can't compare so why ask?
I can agree to a certain extent but also I HIGHLY doubt that these raws so easily available to us are the same raws that Bayer Schering uses for example.. I’m sure there’s a lot more quality control among other things as I doubt those raw suppliers want to lose a multi-million or possibly billion dollar contract due to bad or under quality raws... Those aren’t Joe Chang schmoes selling raws out the back door of a UGL factory to Bayer Schering and Organon etc...
Iv had Norma and organon Deca. Some of the first steroids I used. First Deca I used. I grew quite a bit from only 200 mg a week in the beginning. But as the guy mentioned earlier Deca is Deca. If properly dosed underground fucking lab is irrelevant.