SERMS leave you with elevated T and elevated E2, this is the opposite of what is ideal for recovery.
Remember there is all that E2 floating around with the SERM, as soon as the SERM is gone, E2 will shut off GNRH instantly AND elevated T will keep converting to E2, keeping GNRH off.
As you are coming off, and test is lowering, you want to keep E2 low too, but you don't want to stimulate more test once test starts dropping below natty levels. A SERM could be used to stave off E2 dominance coming down from a very high T cycle (since AIs can only reduce E2 by about 50%) but you want that SERM gone before the last of the exo T is gone.
Kaladryn, this is very interesting as this goes against almost every pct protocol you see out there these days.
If someone were to come off completely from everything, how would you recommend they go about doing that?
Kaladryn, this is very interesting as this goes against almost every pct protocol you see out there these days.
If someone were to come off completely from everything, how would you recommend they go about doing that?
Kaladryn,Controlling Estrogen and making sure E doesn't get dominate over T is your goal when coming off, this is "PCT" to me. You can also stimulate LH production while on in order to prevent laytig cell downregulation, this is another form of "PCT."
The whole concept of "restarting" and HPGA doesn't follow human biochemical logic to me.
also curious as to Kaladryn's thoughts. I'm really glad he's back to posting here have always enjoyed his posts
Agreeded, he is the one that people should be listening to on the subject. Learned a lot from the guy.
friends use clomid + menopur for PCT. It works