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300 lb Gurus.....

BigBoyJ

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I haven't done anything controversial in a while, so I now feel that it's about that time.

If you look at the boards these days, it seems there are a lot of 300 lb gurus popping up. They tell people about gear, gh, slin, peptides and everyone seems to follow their advice without question. From the pics I've seen of these gurus, I wouldn't trust many of them to make me a sandwich, much less tell me how to take possibly dangerous drugs. Most of them have absolutely no muscle definition, no vascularity....basically, no shape. Yet everyone rains compliments on them, increasing their "internet credibility". Apparently, as long as you're very large, and you claim to be an expert, then you are....it's that simple.

Don't get me wrong, man. I know with a lot of this stuff, not much legitimate research has been done. I'm just saying, people should research things for themselves, using REAL data. Take the gurus advice with a grain of salt. Use common sense and your research to determine if the guru data has merrit. I've definitely been guilty of using myself as a human lab rat. It almost got me in trouble quite a few times. All I'm saying is, be smart. Take care of yourself. Don't just automatically take someone's word for something, just because they're big. Bigger isn't always better. Would you rather be 300 lbs at 25% bodyfat, or 210 at 7%? Sure, the drugs are nice, I love 'em. Just be smart with your body. You'll need it for a long time. Don't put it in anyone else's hands.
 
I've never been 300lbs :eek:
 
I could not agree more...

I always here how guys say so and so said to do this...yeah but look at him. Shit do the research yourself...know what you are putting into your body.

Hey I hear if you inject windex, your eyes will be clearer...now do not go out and try that...it was just an example :)

yeah piss poor example, but you get the point. I think the problem stems from bigger faster. WE want that quick size like the woman wants the quick weight loss....and since he is huge why not do what he says
 
Well, I was 306 lbs about 12-13 weeks ago...My before pic is posted in the members section... And now about 3 weeks out and posted another update pic at 267..

I am a guru to myself only,,lol... And It took me 24 years of training and experimenting to get that weight at 6ft tall..

But , If I could be assistance to anyone serious to what I did to get there ,it would be my pleasure , though , with that note, it worked for me ! And took a long time..

Good post bro !
 
I would never trust anyone who is a self proclaimed guru. Even Dan hated that name and desperately tried to shed that moniker before his premature demise. What quantifies someone to be labeled a guru anyway?

I honestly think more people should start thinking outside the box and do their own research but not many people can understand a peer-reviewed written article so I will decipher them for most guys and try to lead them down the right path.

We are at a point now in bodybuilding where people are getting reckless and taking more than they need, even for first cycles. Peptide use is out of control, so I feel it best if I can educate people and help them out, especially to prevent possible harm to oneself.

I am far from being a guru, I would never use that term, even with my formal education. But there are guys who understand the science of things better than others and it is their responsibility to help others stay out of harms way.
 
Came close to the big three but def no guru.
 
its funny about the weight thing its only a numbr, I wasnt anywhere near 300 but was 228 at 5ft 8 in with 15%. I would take my current 195lb at 8% anyday!!!!!!!!
 
300lb plus tub of lard I certainly am...guru, not a chance! Been in this and the powerlifting game for over 20 years, and am still learning all the time.So much of what we do is uncharted scientific territory, even today so many years after their discovery, there are relatively few academic studies on anabolic steroids.

As an example, even the novice bodybuilder/lifter knows that nandralone is good for his/ her joints.Yes, we can make a fairly good hypothesis that it is probably as a result of prostaglandin inhibition.Yet, this is not a medically acceptable use for nandrolone ...not even a claim made by its manufacturers - but I know from personal experience that it works for my sore knees.However there is no study out there to "objectively" substantiate my subjective knowledge.

For myself, I have learnt a great deal on the various boards over the past 12 or so years.Yes, there is plenty of crap, but there is good stuff too.There are the internet smart asses with their thousands of posts and incredulous personal claims, but there are also the really sincere guys out there too who mean well and are just trying to help.Anyhoo, enough crap from me ...it is time to eat.Eat,sleep, train and supplement - in that order is my only theory - and pray that mom and dad gave you the genetics to grow like a weed!Take it from a 300 lb plus slug.
 
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300 at 25% bodyfat... thats still 225 of muscle versus your 210 at 7% wich would be about 195 pounds of muscle bones acount for i think 17% of body weight so that brings us down to 197 and 162. Water accounts for about 65% of bodyweight bringing us down to 118 pounds and 97 pounds of muscle, and I still havnt accounted for brain and other organs. I'm really bored.
 
haha...

Im aiming to be a 350 lbs and at 95% BF. And hell yea Im a guru. Not only am I gentically gifted for chub but I know my shiznit. IV Twinkie cream anybody???
gooey for a reason :)
 
Tman2002 said:
300 at 25% bodyfat... thats still 225 of muscle versus your 210 at 7% wich would be about 195 pounds of muscle bones acount for i think 17% of body weight so that brings us down to 197 and 162. Water accounts for about 65% of bodyweight bringing us down to 118 pounds and 97 pounds of muscle, and I still havnt accounted for brain and other organs. I'm really bored.


Yep, you are bored.:D
 
YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT, BBJ.

IT WAS REALLY BAD FOR ME BACK WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE INTERNET....I READ A POST ABOUT SOME GUY....WHO CLAIMED TO BE ALL HUGE AND FREAKY...AND SOMETIMES DID SOUND KNOWLEDGABLE....THEN, I'D SEE A PICTURE.

THE FIRST FEW TIMES THAT HAPPENED I WAS PRETTY LET DOWN, SHOCKED, DISMAYED...WHATEVER. IT NEVER OCCURRED TO ME THAT SOMEONE WOULD POST A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT LIKE THAT ABOUT THEMSELVES.

SO, YEAH....I STARTED TO BE A LITTLE SKEPTICAL ABOUT MOST POSTS UNTIL I SAW A PICTURE OR TWO AND GOT OTHER FELLAS TO VOUCH FOR THAT PERSON.

LUCKILY YOU'VE GOT GUYS ON THIS BOARD WHO GET CALLED ON THEIR BULLSHIT BY BIG A, OR PHIL...[WHO CRACKS ME UP WHEN HE DEMANDS A PIC..THAT'S JUST DAMN FUNNY] AND BUNCH OF OTHER REALLY GOOD BODYBUILDERS HERE WHO AREN'T SO EASILY TAKEN IN. :)
 
You're right, Jethro. And we also have some real life gurus on this board....well at least as close to a guru as you can get in subject matter like this. I know Big A, Phil, Homonunculus, DoggCrapp, Skip and some others are as close to gurus as anyone I know of. And more recently, some of the posts by Almost Pro, The Game, and IBBAdmin have really impressed me. We have some great knowledge here, no doubt. And let's not forget Anthony Roberts. I know a lot of people like to thrash the dude, but he obviously spends a lot of time researching this stuff. I give him respect for that.
 
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I am not worry about them, i just bought a nutritional plan an cicle form one of the most populars "Knowlege bb" and he send me a stupid diet of 4000 cal and a cicle for a middle weight guy with 3 sustanon a week and 600 mg boldenone a week, and it supouse to help me to to compete in 245 next year (10 pounds heavier than 2005)

Internet is full of jokers, but even the famous are joking too.
 
I can name on of the biggest INTERNET jokers of all time, but I do not want to start a hate thread:D :D :D
 
BigBoyJ said:
You're right, Jethro. And we also have some real life gurus on this board....well at least as close to a guru as you can get in subject matter like this. I know Big A, Phil, Homonunculus, DoggCrapp, Skip and some others are as close to gurus as anyone I know of. And more recently, some of the posts by Almost Pro, The Game, and IBBAdmin have really impressed me. We have some great knowledge here, no doubt. And let's not forget Anthony Roberts. I know a lot of people like to thrash the dude, but he obviously spends a lot of time researching this stuff. I give him respect for that.

I could not have said it better BigBoyJ all of the above are as close as it gets and I respect each one.
 
BigBoyJ said:
And let's not forget Anthony Roberts. I know a lot of people like to thrash the dude, but he obviously spends a lot of time researching this stuff. I give him respect for that.

I had an issue with a mod. from another board a while back and
AR gave me some advice on it. and added that if I needed help
on anything to PM him. As far as I'm conserned he's good to go
in my book. And of course for Big A and the rest, my respect goes
out to them as well. I wish I knew half as much as you guys.
 
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gooey said:
Im aiming to be a 350 lbs and at 95% BF. And hell yea Im a guru. Not only am I gentically gifted for chub but I know my shiznit. IV Twinkie cream anybody???
gooey for a reason :)



LMAO. :D
 
Big Heinz I have to admit that is kind of funny since the guy is a jackass why not drop his name I am really wondering who you would think anybody would know what you need better than you must have been a real expert in your mind. Then again you never know what did he have you eating spinach?
 

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