4ius without slin for extended time

[wasp]

will 4 do anymore damage than 2 would, such as possible slin problems down the road? or does gh going in produce the same possible sides irrelevant of dose? not planning on using outside slin ever

 

[edmundo]

No, but you should start with around 2 i.u. and every month up dose for 1 i.u. imho I'm doing like that and I don't use slin...

 

[wasp]

eh, i started at 2 for a week, on 3 now...............so far so good,little anxious but nothing i cant deal with, when do you guys notice this hand numbness and things? right away or after weeks?

 

[intensed]

I really didn't start noticing hand numbness until about 6 weeks in. I started feeling the clicky fingers and achy feet around 2 weeks, arthritic feeling. My feet were effected before my hands at first. I Work at a desk job and literally my feet felt like I was standing on them all day like I was at a roller coaster park waiting in line for the past 10 hours. I'm about 3 months in now and every night my hands go numb during the night. My hands can stay numb for 2 hours after waking up. Its hard to explain its not the same feeling you get when you sleep on your arm and your hand just falls asleep, its more a tightness that runs down the forearm. I'm using blue tops from China and running 5IU before bed each night. I think they are pretty good quality but I have nothing to compare as this is my first go. My main concern is when doing the shake test the bubbles dissipate pretty fast, some report lasting for 15 - 20 minutes I have heard, mine are lucky to last one minute. You are not suppose to shake the HGH as reportedly this can damage the hgh. I think anyone that orders Generic Blue Tops have couple basic questions in the back of their mind such as 1.) They said its 10IU bottle but is it really? 2.)How potent is the hgh. One thing I have noticed is the potency feels to vary from vial to vial in the same kit. Another huge problem is how the hgh has been handled. In my quest to find good blue tops at great prices directly from China I have been shipped some pretty degraded HGH.. Shrunken pucks at the bottom, loose power, no bubbles if shaken which tell us pretty much all the active proteins are dead. Even with the stuff I'm using now I find some vials the puck moves around, and you can the outline of the puck on the vial, almost as if the hgh is degrading.. So you never know how old your shit is... Are they selling expired hgh from back stock to dealers for great prices?? Who knows.. To me sometimes it feels like they are selling you the brown bag of lettuce at 70% off, you know the one at the supermarket that you must eat that night because you know it won't last.

I know I'm rambling here.. But I know there are many others lurking with some blue tops in their fridge wondering how good their hgh really is. I guess the true test would be spend the money on Human Grade and compare.

eh, i started at 2 for a week, on 3 now...............so far so good,little anxious but nothing i cant deal with, when do you guys notice this hand numbness and things? right away or after weeks?

 

[juicin]

Its hard to explain its not the same feeling you get when you sleep on your arm and your hand just falls asleep, its more a tightness that runs down the forearm.

That's strange because the "numb" feeling i've been getting feels exactly to me along the lines of that "asleep" feeling. Been on for about 5-6 weeks at 5iu 5 days a week 2 off.

im curious about the orgininal question of insulin resistance, has anyone here become insulin resistant or even developed type II diabetes due to gh? Does GH make ALL cells insulin resistant - fat AND muscle?? if it can make muscle cells resistant i would think that would seriously hinder gains....