AAS Dose or Duration. What's more important for HPTA recovery?

[Ehren]

This question occurred to me while reading the Blast/Cruise thread but didnt want to hijack.

In your experience, which determines the degree and length of HPTA shutdown more: Dose or Duration?

For instance is it better for HPTA recovery to use a higher dose for 10 weeks or a lower dose for longer to achieve similar gains.

I know it's a complex question, but just asking from the standpoint of HPTA recovery.

 

[plang]

i think its highly dependant on the comnpound. 12 weeks of test is different than 12 weeks of test/deca or 12 weeks of test/tren...total mg being the same even.

 

[mexbeast]

hpta recovery greatly depends on your state of mind and what you think about it, you psychology greatly influences how your body and it's organs function, i will write a piece on this subject and share my theories, and experience.

 

[maldorf]

IMO, duration has a greater effect on suppression than dose. I have no research to back this, just experience in the past.

 

[Swifto]

Duration. Hands down.

When the testes become atrophied and are no longer being stimulated, testicular dysfunction will kick in. This is because of lack of endogenous ganadotropins (LH, FSH). This is exactly why HCG is so important.

The hypothalamus recovers quickly after a cycle, the testes do not.

Although some androgens effect the pituitary directly (the estrogen receptor), as I said above, the real 'weak link' are the testes (leydig cells, germ cells, steroli cells).

 

[mexbeast]

honestly i don't believe the testes atrophy, mine never shrink even after very long cycles, i'm talking 2-3 year long.

 

[Dezzy]

i think its highly dependant on the comnpound. 12 weeks of test is different than 12 weeks of test/deca or 12 weeks of test/tren...total mg being the same even.

I agree. I think it depends on the compound more. A little bit of tren shuts me straight down for weeks! I can run test at 1000 mg and recover pretty quickly.

 

[Chim Chim]

Bump!!!!

This is a good topic. I for one would like to hear more on this topic.

 

[MrCyp]

Def duration. Im on hrt but if I was a pct'er i'd still recover better from 6weeks with tren opposed to 15weeks of primo. When your shut down your shut down. Wether its from 100mg tren or 5mg anavar

 

[xsincity82x]

Diff compounds shut you down harder than others but once you are shut down totally which just about any bb cycle will shut you down, the lenght of time totally shut down will have a huge impact on recovery time, shut down long enough and some do not recover tho age and genetics play a role in that as well...

 

[Ehren]

honestly i don't believe the testes atrophy, mine never shrink even after very long cycles, i'm talking 2-3 year long.

Good replies, I appreciate all you guys sharing the benefit of your experience here, thanks.

Even though it's not what I want to hear. That's life. This pretty much puts the idea of a "cruise" off the table for me. Looks like the risk vs. benefit ratio is not in favour of a cruise.

Mex: you're lucky Bro. I took Big A's recommendation of 50mg Clomid EOD from the "Growth Principles" thread and it's working great for Testes size, never been happier. BUT if I hadn't, I'd be staring down the barrell at a couple raisins at the moment

 

[maldorf]

I agree. I think it depends on the compound more. A little bit of tren shuts me straight down for weeks! I can run test at 1000 mg and recover pretty quickly.

Well, we are trying not to compare apples with oranges. What I think we are talking about is comparing taking say 1g of test for 8 weeks to say "cruising" on 250 mg test/wk for 6 months.