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Simpleswim95

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I am 28 years old, 6 foot tall, 88kg ish on cycle, 85kg ish off cycle.

I have been on a test/tren cycle, eating super clean, to try to loose fat so I can slowly build muscle ontop, and not look bad while 'bulking'. Weirdly, despite dropping calories, I'm still at about 88kg, but fat has come off, so I must have added muscle. However, I still don't look how I want to look.

I saw a Doctor, who said my genetics make me prone to back problems long term, so avoid lifting too heavy / getting too big as it will cause issues. That was never my goal anyway, I just want a lean fit body with muscle in the right places.

Gym:
There is no gym near me anymore so I have 2 options.
I can use the bench / powerblock DB's / resistance bands I have at home to train
OR I move.
I am also learning to swim for cardio as treadmill etc is a bit boring.

Diet:
My carb sources are oats, rice, lentils (kidney beans typically)
My protein sources are whey, casein, eggs (whole and white), protein yogurt, semi skimmed milk
My fat sources are olive oil, mixed nuts / seeds, fish oil.
I vary the quantities of these foods depending on what I am trying to achieve.
I am intolerant to gluten, and chicken/meat, I really don't like fish but mixing fish oil into shakes works well.

Gear:
I have tried a number of things, but only really seem my body change on tren.
I am curious about peptides / HGH (I tried HGH once for 4 months and no roids, felt quite strong, hair/skin was better, sleep was great etc)

Money:
I have a budget for gear etc per month but if I know what I need to do then I can crack on. Also happy to have a good coach who I can check in with and we can adjust stuff accordingly.

I guess the big question is - can I do it - given the limitations above? If the answer is yes, how do I get there please?
 
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What does your diet look like? Portion sizes. Typical day of eating?
 

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Keep in mind you can't list cycles for him. It's against the rules!
 

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Where do you live,....how can there not be a gym nearby?

If there really isn't a gym nearby then I recommend saving up some money and buying some more equipment if you have room for it. All you really need is a bench with leg curl attachment, a bench that can adjust for inclines, and a power rack. The power rack should have a bar on it for doing pullups. Use the bench inside the rack because youll want a bench that doesn't have uprights and has some wheels on it so you can move it around. That is the setup I have. You can do just about everything. I did buy a pulldown/row machine which uses my plates for resistance but you really don't have to get that since you can do pullups. I bought the machine for my wife since she really cant pullup her own weight.

I bought my stuff online from New York Barbell I think it was and if you already have the barbell you should be able to get the rack and bench for under $900 total I bet. I also bought a rack and dumbells up to 70 lbs but you don't have to get that. Any weight you buy you are better off getting that local because the shipping cost is kinda high but you might be able to find some deals.
 
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Simpleswim95

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Yup not looking for a cycle, more answers to these questions:

(1) Is there a coach here (or in person in the UK) who can help me get me to where I want to be?
(2) Do you recommend cycling (normal gear) or moving to HGH / peptides (dont need to say which ones, I am more curious what will work well for me).
(3) Adjusting the diet quantities and buying more equipment shouldn't be much a problem. The main reason I moved to resistance bands is because I was pushing a lot through my shoulders, and the bands force me to use the muscle I am training properly and 'evenly'. In term of equipment, I already have a bench that adjusts, with the leg attachment, and powerblock dumbbells (adjustable). So the only thing missing is the rack really.

I am not looking for shortcuts, just confused by the lack of progress really, and need some direction.
 

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add potatoes and yams.

Add Beef and chicken.

Mix Complex carbs with Eggs/Chicken/beef/fish.

Eat a shitload of Them mixed up at each meal.

In my opinion the best macro split is 40% Protein,40% Carb, 20% Fat

This is the macro who you will be the biggest while also at the same time be the leanest. Since carbs and Protein are equal . Most protein, Most carbs without getting fat.

If you can eat 3 meals, make them 40% Carb, 40% Protein, 20% Fat. With complex carbs(Oats,Brown rice,Yams,potatoes) Forget veggies. Forget protein shake.

Go meat/Eggs + Complex carbs at each meal. Do not think about fat intake.

If you can only fit 3 meals in a day. I would do something like this. for 3000 calories.

-Breakfast:- Eggwhites + big Oats without sugar natural oats

-Lunch:- 12 oz of chicken breast + potatoes

-Dinner:-12 oz of 95% ground beef + Brown rice


You basically Buy Complex carbs in Natural form and buy Meat and eggs. Cheapest way to get big and be the leanest you can While on a budget.

Go for Protein:-Chicken breast,95% Ground beef, Eggwhites in huge amount

Go for complex carbs:-Natural Oats, Brown rice, Potatoes

Mix one with one in Huge amount. Forget about Adding Fat source or veggies or anything else. Force feed Complex carbs + The protein source i listed.
 
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I am 28 years old, 6 foot tall, 88kg ish on cycle, 85kg ish off cycle.

I have been on a test/tren cycle, eating super clean, to try to loose fat so I can slowly build muscle ontop, and not look bad while 'bulking'. Weirdly, despite dropping calories, I'm still at about 88kg, but fat has come off, so I must have added muscle. However, I still don't look how I want to look.

I saw a Doctor, who said my genetics make me prone to back problems long term, so avoid lifting too heavy / getting too big as it will cause issues. That was never my goal anyway, I just want a lean fit body with muscle in the right places.

Gym:
There is no gym near me anymore so I have 2 options.
I can use the bench / powerblock DB's / resistance bands I have at home to train
OR I move.
I am also learning to swim for cardio as treadmill etc is a bit boring.

Diet:
My carb sources are oats, rice, lentils (kidney beans typically)
My protein sources are whey, casein, eggs (whole and white), protein yogurt, semi skimmed milk
My fat sources are olive oil, mixed nuts / seeds, fish oil.
I vary the quantities of these foods depending on what I am trying to achieve.
I am intolerant to gluten, and chicken/meat, I really don't like fish but mixing fish oil into shakes works well.

Gear:
I have tried a number of things, but only really seem my body change on tren.
I am curious about peptides / HGH (I tried HGH once for 4 months and no roids, felt quite strong, hair/skin was better, sleep was great etc)

Money:
I have a budget for gear etc per month but if I know what I need to do then I can crack on. Also happy to have a good coach who I can check in with and we can adjust stuff accordingly.

I guess the big question is - can I do it - given the limitations above? If the answer is yes, how do I get there please?



In my opinion the following comes to mind first.

Your progress will be limited with the gym kit you have unless you get some one to guide you that can create a plan who has a lot of experience n education


Diet looks fine in terms of food choices but that’s only a 1:4 of the story - amounts , timings , combinations are all just as important for the whole picture.

What screams to me is if tren n test are only drugs you get results from your training is sub par. Tren allows for results to come with sub par training n diet so with new clients I get this is a tell tale for me.

So overall I feel you can’t do it on your own with these limitations as if you could you already would be making the gains u wanted.

I would look to increase your knowledge on training n diet or pay some one to advise you


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I'm not even sure why you need gear. You're probably just going to cripple your endocrine system to be 90 kg at 6 ft tall. Sometimes I think if I had it all to do over again I would have just stayed natural and focused on diet nad training. My equivalent weight to yours at my height would have been a lean 180 at 10% BF. That is soemthing I had achieved long before any gear at all.

The gear is to take it to a new level using a system that works that is already in place. It basically make the body recover faster, holds more fluid in the muscle and retains more nitrogen.

You really don't have a training system in place so what are you enhancing with gear? Get it strait and experiment with diet and you will probably get to where you want without gear. At this point you have beat up your endocrine so you will have to take 2 steps back before going forward again. If you started gear before 25 years of age you may not recover as easily or at all. It's possible you phucked yourself into a corner. You have a lot of company. Many of us are in the same corner.
 

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If you can't eat meat/chicken its time to figure out a way that you can enjoy fish.
 

Simpleswim95

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I am not set on having gear. Happy to move to something more natural, or use HGH or something else. The trouble is, 100% naturally, I am quite weak and not looking good.

I started gear at 25.5 years old. I was training naturally before that for about 2 years.

I have joined all kinds of trainers for 'better' training. I've never looked very good, better sure, but never even close to those Instagram people for example. And even cross fit guys look better lol. Therefore I don't think its training alone, I have a feeling something is up with my hormones or otherwise, hence I think I need a coach. But at this point I have exhausted the Google search engine and worked with everyone I can, with no avail. They were not on specialised forums, like here, hence I'm turning to this legit place for legit help :)

Happy to send pics over. I think you will be surprised that I ever even cycled. I guess, rather than negativity and criticism of the past, I would rather look forward to figure out what to do now.
 

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IMO, you neeeeed a gym.
I dont buy into the "get some weights at home." Unless you have a couple thousand dollars laying around, this shit gets very expensive.

I would:
A. Move close to a gym
B. Hire a coach dude.
^^^^
there's so much damn info to learn on the internet dude, it can be overwhelming. When you hire someone, you can learn and still move in the right direction. It'll take alot of the guessing work out of the equation.
 

Simpleswim95

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Can you recommend a coach?
Yes, I am already property hunting for something near a gym.
 
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Best of luck
Make sure you keep plugging away
 

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For what you want, you don't need gear. You not looking to compete as a bodybuilder. If you do. Find a gym and hire a coach if you don't know what to do.

1. A good diet. Already some solid advice on here about that.

2. If you need to train at home then here is a workout that I posted before that will work. Your not going to get bodybuilding huge but thats not your goal anyway.

Need a pull-up bar and a deck of cards. Heres a 3 day workout. Frequency is up to you.

Day 1
Chest Shoulders Triceps
Pushups 52 sets deck of cards (Start with the number on card is number of pushups, Face cards are 10 and Aces are 11)
(after that gets easy then assign different pushups to different cards ex-Hearts-Decline pushups, Clubs-Close grip, Spades-Wide grip, Diamonds-Normal)
(you can stop there because thats plenty but if you want more)
Diamond pushups 2xfailure
BW tricep extensions 2xfailure
Plank 1x60 seconds

Day 2
Legs
Lunges 100 reps per leg
Bw squats 8x20 seconds (max reps in 20, rest 20)
Hindu squats 1xmax
Lateral lunges 2x20
V ups 5x10

Day 3
Back bis
Pull ups descending ladder 10-1 (do 10 rest,9, rest,8 rest, etc)
Pause chin ups 5x failure (pause in middle and at top, thats one rep)
Rack chins or fat man rows 1xfailure

Cardio. Is up to you but I would try to get in at least 4 sessions a week of 45 minutes keeping your heart rate around 130-140. Do whatever you want to get out there and keep it there.
 
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Simpleswim95

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For what you want, you don't need gear. You not looking to compete as a bodybuilder. If you do. Find a gym and hire a coach if you don't know what to do.

1. A good diet. Already some solid advice on here about that.

2. If you need to train at home then here is a workout that I posted before that will work. Your not going to get bodybuilding huge but thats not your goal anyway.

Need a pull-up bar and a deck of cards. Heres a 3 day workout. Frequency is up to you.

Day 1
Chest Shoulders Triceps
Pushups 52 sets deck of cards (Start with the number on card is number of pushups, Face cards are 10 and Aces are 11)
(after that gets easy then assign different pushups to different cards ex-Hearts-Decline pushups, Clubs-Close grip, Spades-Wide grip, Diamonds-Normal)
(you can stop there because thats plenty but if you want more)
Diamond pushups 2xfailure
BW tricep extensions 2xfailure
Plank 1x60 seconds

Day 2
Legs
Lunges 100 reps per leg
Bw squats 8x20 seconds (max reps in 20, rest 20)
Hindu squats 1xmax
Lateral lunges 2x20
V ups 5x10

Day 3
Back bis
Pull ups descending ladder 10-1 (do 10 rest,9, rest,8 rest, etc)
Pause chin ups 5x failure (pause in middle and at top, thats one rep)
Rack chins or fat man rows 1xfailure

Cardio. Is up to you but I would try to get in at least 4 sessions a week of 45 minutes keeping your heart rate around 130-140. Do whatever you want to get out there and keep it there.

I tried without gear. Problem is I am weak naturally. I may not need steroids, sure, but I think HGH or something to keep my immune system and strength relatively 'manly' enough so I am not lifting sissy weights is needed. Even the doctor said that naturally I was pretty weak and its not good. Hence I am wondering what I should do.
 

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