i think its interesting that guys are finding compounds like primo and others help reduce their E2. a much much better alternative if someone seriously needs intervention with estradiol levels. only problem i ever experienced with E2 when running big cycles was i could cry watching sad movies, lmao. ran arimidex a few times when dieting down but only during the diet, again short term.SERMs make my joints feel like I’m 90 years old. I’ve tried many (all) different kinds to try to find one that doesn’t feel like it’s killing me but they all suck donkey dick. I prefer test from 200-350mg and equal parts primobolan to control estrogen.
agree partly. i think some of the culprit lies in crushed SHBG which pretty much everyone who does HRT longterm this seems to occur. SHBG is crushed, total test looks great and free test shoots off the charts correlating in the higher E2 readings. the dilemma for me for example would be in order to get my free test in range my total test would be tanked and i feel like shit but hey my estradiol would be in range and i wouldnt have those evil female hormones tracing thru my veins. we're all different to a degree though.You need to lower your TRT dose. IMO you should never need any AIs on TRT. The goal should be to keep your Test in the mid to high range without raising E2 past `40. Go get bloodwork and adjust from there.
Spot on! If you don't have symptoms and feel fine, I'd keep it as it is. Estrogen has lots of good benefits and should not be crushed.100%. i have "high estrogen" according to the suggested range. i have zero symptoms, feel fine, doctor has no concern.
I wish I could go back in time 15 years and tell myself that. I’ve learned it the HARD way.Spot on! If you don't have symptoms and feel fine, I'd keep it as it is. Estrogen has lots of good benefits and should not be crushed.
I wish I could go back in time 15 years and tell myself that. I’ve learned it the HARD way.
Me and you both dude. I tried soooooo many approaches based on various forum conversations over the years. Aromasin/Adex/Every SERM out there. I don't think I once felt normal - either nips were swelling up or joints were so achy I couldn't do half the movements I wanted. Then the sexual side from day to day was either dick wouldn't work, or would work and couldn't cum, or I had to masturbate 5x a day to be able to concentrate - just crazy shit.I wish I could go back in time 15 years and tell myself that. I’ve learned it the HARD way.
100%slow changes and let estradiol adjust. The body really does to a fantastic job of finding equilibrium if you make small adjustments and give it time. Just so I am clear - if you are running 2 grams of gear/wk things are altogether different. But if you are on TRT or somewhere reasonably close there should be no SERM/AI regular use from my point of view.
That's an expensive AI brother lol. I wonder what the topout of this approach is. Hard to imagine 1g of test being controlled with a 1g primo. Maybe I'm wrong...Nolvadex makes me feel like complete shit. Raloxifene is tolerable but no SERM is best. No AI of course. I prefer to control estrogen with primobolan.
That would be 10mg test enanthate?On average, a man’s body produces about 7 mg of testosterone a day.
Yes, Enanthate or Cyp.That would be 10mg test enanthate?
150 a week should not do this stop checking for gyno, most my guys who have thought they had gyno were squeezing their nipples all the time to check and got sore. Unless you are smoking a ton of weed 150 should not do this hell 500 rarely does this.Curious what others recommend for a good AI while on TRT? My nipples are a little sore and I’d rather it not get worse.
150mg per week of Test.
same I overused ais a tonI wish I could go back in time 15 years and tell myself that. I’ve learned it the HARD way.
interesting philosophy on the trees, will it really affect estro levels at a gram or so per day?for 20 yearS? lol150 a week should not do this stop checking for gyno, most my guys who have thought they had gyno were squeezing their nipples all the time to check and got sore. Unless you are smoking a ton of weed 150 should not do this hell 500 rarely does this.
Absolutely bro people get gyno from weed all the time especially younger guys.interesting philosophy on the trees, will it really affect estro levels at a gram or so per day?for 20 yearS? lol
Let's see those studies........................Absolutely bro people get gyno from weed all the time especially younger guys.