Anabolics and the heart

[Jmuscle]

Hey Guys,

Im new to this siteso just to say hey

Im 20

I have trained seriousely for 4 years

Stats
Height:6ft2
Weight:241lb
bf%14

I have a really annoying side affect when using anabolics i get palpitations and loud and sometimes irregular heart beats

I have had them checked out and my heart is fine

I never get them when im off of steroids so its not a pre-existing condition and its not enlarged and my bp is 132 over 70

I cant do big cycles because it makes it worse so i just stick to low doses for longer,

I want to try tren but when i did deca(19nor,similar to tren)i got them real bad!

I am seeing if anyone has experienced anything similar and was there any medication/supplements you used to correct it.

It is more of an obstical than a health issue!,any advice/experience would be greatly appreciated

 

[Jmuscle]

I find it hard to beleive that not one person has experienced anything like this?

 

[grim]

i get them too and also had my heart checked.i only notice it at night when i'm relaxing i just deal with it. and usually by week 5 or 6 of the cycle they go away...

 

[manboy270]

My older brother (36)complained about this all the time, got checked out and was actually scheduled to get a pace-maker installed(yikes!) but he's extremely stubborn/stupid and refused to address it last minute. He gets them on or off cycle though so it may not be the same issue. I can tell you from personal experience that trenbolone is very powerful stuff. It's the one steroid I've used that really made me borderline "uncontrolable" at times--very aggressive/axious. Maybe you will react differently to it--who knows...I'm just thinking if 19 nors' amplify your palpitaion problems---well lets just say I'm imagining myself lying in bed having an episode and being furious about it--getting madder by the second that the event is completely out of my control--nothing I can do about it! Stress is also a known risk factor for cardiac events and this stuff really increased my stress levels for sure so it might not be the best choice for you. Some guys though run trenbolone all the time without any problems like this--I just don't know any personally. All that being said it gave me incredible strength gains( best ever)@ 100 mgs eod.-

 

[Ashop]

Hey Guys,

Im new to this siteso just to say hey

Im 20

I have trained seriousely for 4 years

Stats
Height:6ft2
Weight:241lb
bf%14

I have a really annoying side affect when using anabolics i get palpitations and loud and sometimes irregular heart beats

I have had them checked out and my heart is fine

I never get them when im off of steroids so its not a pre-existing condition and its not enlarged and my bp is 132 over 70

I cant do big cycles because it makes it worse so i just stick to low doses for longer,

I want to try tren but when i did deca(19nor,similar to tren)i got them real bad!

I am seeing if anyone has experienced anything similar and was there any medication/supplements you used to correct it.

It is more of an obstical than a health issue!,any advice/experience would be greatly appreciated

You've been tested by a doctor and checked out alright while ON??
If you are having these serious health issue, then maybe AAS is not for you. I wouldnt suggest continuing doing something that causes you these problems. Sounds to me like you may be having anxiety issues that I doubt is related to your AAS use.

 

[hompie]

Deca gives me irregular heart beats to.

 

[terryd5150]

Welcome aboard.

I have the same issues as you bro, but mine happen when I'm not on gear.


For me, I have to watch my intake of simple carbs, starchy carbs, caffiene, and any other kind of stimulant. I find this helps to keep in a managable/barely noticable range.


When on gear I've not found the problem to worsen. Obviously, I still have to watch my intake of those same things.

EQ did give me higher BP and lower cardiovascular performance but no increase in irrelgular heartbeat/arythmia. Deca, test, Sust., and Primo never gave me any related issues.

Dbol made me feel like sh_t, though. Had to drop it quickly.

Hope that helps.

 

[Jmuscle]

Thanks for the replies guys,


Terry5150,Thats strange that when you are on aas they dont worsen,

Im still looking into the possibilities of what it could be,

do you take any supplements,vitamins,medication ect?How long have you had them?

What do you guys do?do you just front it and get on with the cycle or does it worry you?

im kinda gettin to the stage now that if it aint dangerous then just get on with it?

deca seems to just mess me up bad so i tend to stay away from that stuff!

and dbol just made me feel like shit too bro!felt lethargic and got flu like symptoms so i dont bother with orals anymore!

anyone got any research on this?

 

[hompie]

Thanks for the replies guys,


Thats strange that when you are on aas they dont worsen,

Im still looking into the possibilities of what it could be,

do you take any supplements,vitamins,medication ect?How long have you had them?

I have had them all my life so I know for sure its not AAS related.
Though some compounds make it worse.
The cardioligist (dont know if this is spelled right Im dutch) says my heart is fine.
I just did a stress ECG and my heart functions for 120% as to what it should without losing the function in to providing enough oxygen.
I never have irregular beats during activity (like a set) always after in rest.
This is the most important sign that the heart is ok.
If you get problems during excersise it could mean something is wrong.

 

[GymDudeVA]

I've had that for many years too. On a cycle and off, it's about the same.

I suspect that for some people, they may *feel* the irregular beats more when on AAS beacuse of higher blood pressure.

More than one doctor has told me that I am fine, and tests are fine too.

I'd only really worry, though, if you have shortness of breath, chest pains, or any of the other symptoms of real heart disease.

 

[Jmuscle]

i mainly get them on back workouts when my chest is pressed against a pad and my breathing is restricted

but yeah they are not usually at their worst during a workout but i do get the occasional skip and my heart rate is faster when im on!

its usually unexpected when im walking,or at night!

or if i think about them more(anxiety)or had a stressfull day!

its just weird cos im pretty healthy in all other ways

my diet is good(wholegrains,low fat,low salt,low sugar

i take all the correct supplements for the heart!(fish oils,garlic,taurine,magnesium,arganine ect)

started cardio again(cutting now so big part of workout)

maybe its because im less anxious when im off and dont notice them!!!

well thanks for the feedback

i thought i was the only one!

just one more question,

does anyone actually feel a skipped beat or two during a workout?

 

[cryptasm]

I would stay away from tren IMHO... Its pretty strong and could make it worse...besides there are alot of safer options, so why risk it???
As far as the palps go...try a high quality magniesium/calcium supplement... when I say High quality I mean top notch.. not just some pill at the closest supp store... there is some mag supps out there that are like effervesant...high dose high quality and very easily assimilated..(its not what you take but what you assimilate) do a google on mag supps you'll find a good one..that could fix your problem...its been proven to do so..

 

[sablya]

... there is some mag supps out there that are like effervesant...high dose .....that could fix your problem...

It could fix two problems at once, assuming that one is constipation! Start slowly with the magnesium and work up.

Magnesium is almost a miracle supplement. I don't know why, but it is.

 

[BitsOBrawn]

Well when you're young regardless of the cause minor palpitations and irregular heartbeats may not be something of concern. However, after several years of anabolic steroid use you could definitely develop something more serious that would stick with you well after your last cycle. Lots of guys in the past years who've been in their 40's have never woken up after going to sleep and suffering an MI etc.