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Any harm on staying on GH forever

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Love the way I feel on it, can eat whatever I want, stay fairly lean, feel great on it. Been using around 4iu's ED for a while now. Is that too high a dose to stay on forever. I dont really see any side's from it, and my bloodwork is great on it. Any future harm down the road from it?
 
Few cases have reported a link between Diabetes and exogenous GH
 
What's your current age???

My father-in-law has been on 2 iu's / day for the past 5 years! He is currently 61 yrs old!

I've been on it for 3+ years @ 2 iu's - 6iu's / day!

STEEDA~
 
Im 25 so I know im young but naturally have low IGF levels. Range was like 140-380 and I was only 160. Maybe 3iu's ED could be safe

Diabetes doesnt worry me much b/c my glucose levels always come back good in bloodwork, but i'll keep an eye on them.
 
Im 25 so I know im young but naturally have low IGF levels. Range was like 140-380 and I was only 160. Maybe 3iu's ED could be safe

Diabetes doesnt worry me much b/c my glucose levels always come back good in bloodwork, but i'll keep an eye on them.

Yeh in theory it would make perfect sense that exogenous GH would give u diabetes but the real world results luckily are surprisingly few..

However, just for your knowledge,
GH and insulin are somewhat opposite.. When you put GH in your body, it inhibits insulin and at the same time extracts glucose from liver and fat and makes it enter the bloodstream. Now if you take GH right around a meal then ur blood glucose levels are high, but ur insulin level will be low (because of inhibition of insulin) which would create the same environment as in a diabetics body. Over a period of time, you might starts seeing diabetic sideeffects like neuropathy in the feet and hands maybe. So whether u get diabetes or not, GH will hurt ur body a lil bit

Sometimes i feel like the people complaning bout carpal tunnels syndrome adn tingling in wrist is probably from the excess blood glucose and not carpal tunnel itself.

But who knows..so many people are taking it and no one is complaining. Yet..

HGH will also mess with the feedback of other pituitary hormones. I know a mod from other board whose husband took HGH and his thyroid blew out, and now he is on life long thyroid medication.

Sorry i am not trying to sound like a smart ass, but just wanted to let you know both sides.. Often times on BBing boards people only talk about the pros and severely downplay the cons..

I myself have wanted to take HGH several times. but i wont. I feel like AAS is much more safer at a low dose then hormones such as HGH, IGF, slin.

JMO. However good luck with what u decide.do waht you have to do to get big and lean. I do rather live ten less years in a body i am comfortable with then in one that i m not. Cause i know i ll die in peace.. good luck..
 
^^ this is only in higher doses right? B/c hrt docs wouldnt put older patients on it if there was a risk of diabetes or thyorid problems. My dad is on HRT and his doc never mentioned any of this, but he is only on 1.5iu's ED
 
hmm.. i m not too sure about the dose.. yeh but it seems like 1.5 iu isnt as dangerous whereas 10 iu would be a lil more risky.. 4 iu falls somewhere in the middle.

A lot also depends on timing.The safest way would be too If you were to take it on an empty stomach in the morning and not eat for a hour it wouldnt effect you.

Plus half life of GH in your body is only like 8 minutes or something so it will be gone before you know it.

But if you were gonna take all 10 iu at once and drink a soda then that will be a lot more dangerous on your body..

Check your pm i m sending you one with the name of a member who is a doctor on one of the other boards you are on. get his opinion.. or get him to see this thread.
 
Gh diabetes is caused by elevated somatostatin... Dont get it out of control and youre fine. (which means dont use doses larger than 4 iu daily long term, or use large doses infrequently)
I would stay on hgh forever if i could afford it. (Id use only brand name gh - jins and hyges included).

Besides if you are of some age (30+, maybe 40) taking 1.5 iu or so ED will just bring your GH levels to what they were when you were a teenager - and they certainly didnt cause diabetes back then.
 
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Gh diabetes is caused by elevated somatostatin... Dont get it out of control and youre fine. (which means dont use doses larger than 4 iu daily long term, or use large doses infrequently)
I would stay on hgh forever if i could afford it. (Id use only brand name gh - jins and hyges included).

Besides if you are of some age (30+, maybe 40) taking 1.5 iu or so ED will just bring your GH levels to what they were when you were a teenager - and they certainly didnt cause diabetes back then.

When you say use large doses infrequently, isnt that what your supposed to do when bulking. Say the 12iu 3x per week method for a few months. Are you saying its bad to do that every now and then opposed to staying on larger dose frequently?
 
When you say use large doses infrequently, isnt that what your supposed to do when bulking. Say the 12iu 3x per week method for a few months. Are you saying its bad to do that every now and then opposed to staying on larger dose frequently?

You misunderstood me a little. I meant that using large doses infrequently is what you should do. Because it doesnt keep your somatostatin elevated.
 
Lets be real the harmful effect is money. I woud be on at least 10iu plus a day forever if I had the money. GH is all good.
 
GHRH might be a better choice long term and its cheaper.

As of GH about 1.5iu ED is what HRT Clinics are using for the long term. Some have started to use GHRH instead.
 
????

:confused: bottom line is nobody knows what long term effects are if you dont NEED it! how about enlarged heart? blood sugar problems? Tuomor growth? we just dont know. so be advised even if you take a small amount for the next 5 years with no break....if you dont need it medicaly....nobody can answer the question of what may happen. the most common is heart problems with long term use. heart valve problems, enlargement of the heart. and even heart attacks. so use at your own risk.:(
lucian
 
:confused: bottom line is nobody knows what long term effects are if you dont NEED it! how about enlarged heart? blood sugar problems? Tuomor growth? we just dont know. so be advised even if you take a small amount for the next 5 years with no break....if you dont need it medicaly....nobody can answer the question of what may happen. the most common is heart problems with long term use. heart valve problems, enlargement of the heart. and even heart attacks. so use at your own risk.:(
lucian

Good post.

Plus there are a lot of things in this thread that are stated incorrectly I really won't get into an argument about them but...let's just say I got a lot of experience with GH through personal accounts and blood work- and still all the results can vary based on a persons age metabolism diet training type of GH dose timing of dose term of use etc.

For those using GH get a blood glucose meter, it cause hyperglycemia big time. Slin GH and AAS all change insulin sensitivity and once you evolve to type II blood sugar levels it will be bad. Not a risk I would take. No long term studies are done on GH so take it safely, it's a powerful compound that can leave some bad sides after years of use.
 
Love the way I feel on it, can eat whatever I want, stay fairly lean, feel great on it. Been using around 4iu's ED for a while now. Is that too high a dose to stay on forever. I dont really see any side's from it, and my bloodwork is great on it. Any future harm down the road from it?

2iu per day long term has done nothing than improve my health in many aspects.
 
Plus there are a lot of things in this thread that are stated incorrectly I really won't get into an argument about them but...let's just say I got a lot of experience with GH through personal accounts and blood work- and still all the results can vary based on a persons age metabolism diet training type of GH dose timing of dose term of use etc.

I have posted studies that indicated GH,IGF-1 may increase tumor risk. We don't even know what long term AAS will do. There are studies out that just taking TEST for long periods at over 400mg increases risk of prostate cancer and disease, which makes sense.

GHRH looks like maybe a more safer route that HRT clinics are taking. They have been using about 2iu Ed with older adults with sucess and not many sides though for awhile.


Lets be real the harmful effect is money. I woud be on at least 10iu plus a day forever if I had the money. GH is all good.


That can be construed as a negligent and irresponsible statement. Your JOK right!
 
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