I'm not one to make crazy claims in regards to supplements. Obviously, not supplements provide any if any type of strength. I've been using Abolic with the Turkerstone and other goods included in product. Give me a few more weeks, but so far this stuff seems to be on point. If you think it's a bunk product save your money. If you don't trust it works, don't buy it. So far, I'm pretty pumped about it. As long as the muscle fullness, recovery and strength gains increase, I will keep using this product. Is it better than gear, absolutely not.