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Anyone deal/see something like this before? No libido no matter the test dose/est etc

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So this is a bit embarrassing but figured I'd post to see if anyone has seen this/dealt with this before or has any ideas.

Started competing 10+ years ago and abused steroids, the first 2-3 years no matter what I did I had a savage libido(tren/test,ai, no ai etc) then something happened and my erections/libido tanked and never recovered.

To put it bluntly I just never have that strong desire to fuck and my erections suck most of the time. I don't think anything physically wrong downstairs as sometimes out of a blue moon I'll get a crazy strong erection but it will only last a day, the desire though rarely if ever comes...

some key points across the past 8 or so years:

1) I've had countless blood work and tried every single thing when it comes to estrogen (kept it low, 20s,30s,40s, super high(200's) to test every theory and keep in mind I tried this with different doses across months for stability, every trial was a controlled and documented experiment with bloodwork.

2) Mostly been on trt doses for the past 8 or so years except some experiments here and there.

3) Puzzling but if I come off everything my test levels are below range but I get strong sexual urges(just not often) but my erections suck and i feel even more like shit.

4) prolactin has always been low (never seen it over 9 and usually around 3-4)

5) Tried caber/prami just gives me brain fog, no extra desire except to eat more?

6) Also generally dont feel that well on trt, like something is missing besides libido, lots of brain fog.

7) Have hashimotos but thyroid levels are perfect now with medication, t4 upepr mid range, t3 near the top range, TSH usually around 1 - antibodys almost undectable

8) Tried masteron, proviron etc doesn't do shit.

9) I can take a gram of test, lots of androgens etc and not feel any aggression/mental side effects, confirmed with blood work testosterone levels are sky high but mentally I don't feel shit.

10) Tried daily injections, EOD, once a week, creams on the nuts literally doesn't make a difference

11) tried several elimination diets, keto, paleo, low carb, high carb, tested for food allergys no difference on libido

I've seen countless doctors and spent a ridiculous amount of money on bloodwork to no avail... Unfortunately I live in Canada/Asia sometimes and seems most of the endo's are clueless, hard to find a specialist.

I'm guessing this a a neurotransmitter issue or something else I haven't thought of, not sure if anyone as any ideas?
 

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One possibility is that it could be psychological in nature. Sound rather unlikely, but it would fit your situation. Any thoughts on that?
 

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One possibility is that it could be psychological in nature. Sound rather unlikely, but it would fit your situation. Any thoughts on that?
You mean like there's nothing wrong but it's in my head? I suppose it's a possibility but I don't think so.

A few years ago I was in a 4 year relationship and she was very understanding and preferred oral sex most of the time so there was no pressure on me to make things happen and she never judged me for it etc.

While now its a concern obviously I'm fairly sure there's something actually wrong. I mean I went from super high sex drive all the time no matter what I do there's nothing.

I also generally feel like shit too so I think for sure there's an imbalance somewhere.

I could understand performance anxiety here and there but with the 4 year relationship I had none and doesn't make any sense that no matter what I do there's no libido and I can run a ton of stuff and literally not feel it? Seems like something got messed up somewhere?

Also when going off completely the desire randomly comes back but very infrequent so if it was in my head I would think that being on nothing would mess with me more.
 

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You mean like there's nothing wrong but it's in my head? I suppose it's a possibility but I don't think so.

A few years ago I was in a 4 year relationship and she was very understanding and preferred oral sex most of the time so there was no pressure on me to make things happen and she never judged me for it etc.

While now its a concern obviously I'm fairly sure there's something actually wrong. I mean I went from super high sex drive all the time no matter what I do there's nothing.

I also generally feel like shit too so I think for sure there's an imbalance somewhere.

I could understand performance anxiety here and there but with the 4 year relationship I had none and doesn't make any sense that no matter what I do there's no libido and I can run a ton of stuff and literally not feel it? Seems like something got messed up somewhere?

Also when going off completely the desire randomly comes back but very infrequent so if it was in my head I would think that being on nothing would mess with me more.
It could be stress related, something in your life. With the feeling coming back when you are off though, that makes some sense but then I would think it would stay that way as long as you are off. If sex drive is this important to you and you feel like shit while on all of the steroids, I would get off now and go on TRT level of test. 100 mg/wk or even the 10mg/day protocol that a lot of the guys are using that don't mind daily injects. Stick with that for about 6 months and see how you feel. Seems you really screwed up your hormones bad. I personally never had your issue, and my sex drive was really insane when I was on steroids. It was too much really.
 

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It could be stress related, something in your life. With the feeling coming back when you are off though, that makes some sense but then I would think it would stay that way as long as you are off. If sex drive is this important to you and you feel like shit while on all of the steroids, I would get off now and go on TRT level of test. 100 mg/wk or even the 10mg/day protocol that a lot of the guys are using that don't mind daily injects. Stick with that for about 6 months and see how you feel. Seems you really screwed up your hormones bad. I personally never had your issue, and my sex drive was really insane when I was on steroids. It was too much really.
Thanks for the reply.

Yes it was like that for me at first, the drive was insane, had a few girlfriends on the go to say the least in my early 20's.

I'm not obsessed over my sex drive but I would say its bothering me substantially. I mean I see a hot girl flirting with me, I know I like her, I know I should be attracted to her but nothing's happening, I just find it ridiculous.

While I did have my ups and downs in the past 8 years with a car accident that messed me up a few years ago everything been mostly good and I have a successful business now and should be happy, i just cant figure this out.

I've tried 100mg a week for well over 6 months before but I haven't tried the 10mg per day protocol yet so I guess I can give that a shot and see if it does anything, nothing to loose at this point lol.
 

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have you abused tren ?

those days you had solid erections/ libido was there anything different you done those days or days leading up ?

have you tried hcg, pt 141?

viagra and cialis do anything ?
 

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Take hcg. Your testicles makes other hormones that affect your libido that just pinning test doesn't make up for.

Get a partner that turns you on.


Also 100mg a week is nothing. Dr's prescribe like idk 175-200 based on what people post on top of hcg.

I don't go under 500 and I never get those issues.
 
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Thanks for the reply.

Yes it was like that for me at first, the drive was insane, had a few girlfriends on the go to say the least in my early 20's.

I'm not obsessed over my sex drive but I would say its bothering me substantially. I mean I see a hot girl flirting with me, I know I like her, I know I should be attracted to her but nothing's happening, I just find it ridiculous.

While I did have my ups and downs in the past 8 years with a car accident that messed me up a few years ago everything been mostly good and I have a successful business now and should be happy, i just cant figure this out.

I've tried 100mg a week for well over 6 months before but I haven't tried the 10mg per day protocol yet so I guess I can give that a shot and see if it does anything, nothing to loose at this point lol.
maybe you're gay now? watch gay porn, see if yr dick gets hard.
i mean, if chicks dont do it for you...
otherwise. like it was said above, u got emotional issues buried and u dont want to dig em up or admit they exist.
 

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have you abused tren ?

those days you had solid erections/ libido was there anything different you done those days or days leading up ?

have you tried hcg, pt 141?

viagra and cialis do anything ?
Yes I've abused tren back in the day(up to 800mg) although I havn't used it in over 8 years now

The days after solid erections the only thing that seemed to have happened a few times was after a night out drinking(the next day). I rarelly drink(once to twice a year now) so can't say if this is a consistent thing or just a coincidence.

I've tried pt 141 it worked for erection the first time(def took advantage of it ha) then didn't work after that(even tried higher dose) but literally didn't do anything for libido

Both viagra and cialis barely do anything, helps a bit but still loose erection during sex, sometimes can make it through it.
 
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Take hcg. Your testicles makes other hormones that affect your libido that just pinning test doesn't make up for.

Get a partner that turns you on.


Also 100mg a week is nothing. Dr's prescribe like idk 175-200 based on what people post on top of hcg.

I don't go under 500 and I never get those issues.
Do you use an AI with that 500, and how much HCG do you recommend? I think I trialed HCG years ago but maybe I should of tried it more.

Thanks for the tips
 

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maybe you're gay now? watch gay porn, see if yr dick gets hard.
i mean, if chicks dont do it for you...
otherwise. like it was said above, u got emotional issues buried and u dont want to dig em up or admit they exist.
lol I figured I'd get comments like, no definitely not gay and if I was id be ok with it but that does absolutely nothing for me.

I don't know how to explain it, I'm attracted to girls, just dont have that desire to fuck/go looking etc.

I can and do watch porn and can get a semi good erection but seems more like im going through the motion then that deep desire if that makes any sense. Also had a super hot girlfriend for a few months back but broke up recently, I know I want it but just nothing happening
 
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Try this.. You will feel like king kong and def wont loose your erection

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Yes I've abused tren back in the day(up to 800mg) although I havn't used it in over 8 years now

The days after solid erections the only thing that seemed to have happened a few times was after a night out drinking(the next day). I rarelly drink(once to twice a year now) so can't say if this is a consistent thing or just a coincidence.

I've tried pt 141 it worked for erection the first time(def took advantage of it ha) then didn't work after that(even tried higher dose) but literally didn't do anything for libido

Both viagra and cialis barely do anything, helps a bit but still loose erection during sex, sometimes can make it through it.
 

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I'm afraid this is just a common theme among steroid users after years of using them. Sexual problems are rampant in this population. Just look how many of us need ED-pills to be able to get a decent erection to name just one thing. From everything I've seen and heard throughout the years from other steroid users, it just comes with the territory so to speak.

I know it's no fun and it's worrisome but it's something that I'm afraid we're stuck with forever. Like you yourself said, you've tried and/or researched basically everything. You aren't going to find the magic cure for this I'm afraid.
 

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take 5mg of cialis everyday problem solved
 

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Been having issues this year myself but think it’s likely related to other things.

Have you tried DHEA/pregenalone? What’s your stim intake like? Any nicotine? Can cause upregulation of phosphodiesterase type 5. How are erections when masturbating? Sounds like they are likely weak so it’s not performance anxiety or related.
 

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take 5mg of cialis everyday problem solved
I wish it was that easy, I've had prescription pfizer cialis available to me for the past 10 years from my doc and while it does help a bit still doesn't work. (When everything was fine it definitely worked too good, but since this problem doesn't make much of a difference)
 

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Been having issues this year myself but think it’s likely related to other things.

Have you tried DHEA/pregenalone? What’s your stim intake like? Any nicotine? Can cause upregulation of phosphodiesterase type 5. How are erections when masturbating? Sounds like they are likely weak so it’s not performance anxiety or related.
I did trial it once and got anxiety from it and didn't notice much of a benifit but I could try again, on my bloodwork my DHEA consistently comes back low every time.

I don't smoke and at most I have 1 cup of coffee first thing in the morning, I've cut out all other stimulants. I might have a cigar with a friend once every few months but that's it.

Erections while masturbating are half ass, can get the job done but still not quality enough for sex.
 

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