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anyone else a true insomniac?

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back when i had health insurance i went to a nuerologist and a sleep disorder clinic but never finished tests because that is when my mother fell ill and passed away. I mainly have trouble getting asleep moreso than waking up a lot.
 
yepp I sleep 4-6 hours a night and it sucks but I find things to pass the time so I am not just lying there with my mind racing! Also I have forgotten all about sleep meds becuase with them I fel like I don;t feel any better...
 
mild case here sometimes i just cant sleep for days straight, this sounds realy lame but i normaly just tire my self out so damned bad that i just hit the pillow and iam out. i notice my sleep rythems are a little differnt than most people if iam up past 2am iam up the whole nite i sleep best in the early morning about 5-7 seems to be my best times.
 
i get at least 6 hours sleep till friday sat then about 4 hours. my problem once i get home i am tense. when i have a cold i take nite quil and that helps me sleep like a baby. maybe i will just take some whether i am sick or not? if its not late nite workouts its working late that keeps me up. maybe some time of sleep aid but iam afraid of getting adicted to them.
 
I usually only sleep about 4-5 hours anyway. But when I up my Test dosage to usually 1000mg a week with dbol I have to get 2-3 times a night to piss that sucks then it seems like I just went to bed.

I take melantonin on the days that I know I am not gona be able to get to sleep easy. Sleep like a baby then. I got the GNC brand real cheap like $4 a bottle 120 or so and take 12mg. If that dont work benadryl plus it helps my allergies. MM:D
 
I have this problem as well. Tylenol PM work but i don't use them myself. I have a bottle of Ambiem on hand for nights that its bad. I only take them when i really need to. They work VERY well and don't leave you hung over the next day. You actually feel like you got a good nights rest and wake up with no problems. Don't know if they are addictive though because i have never used them for more than a couple nights in a row. They don't get you 'high' so to speak, just make you sleep. Do you have a high stress job or a lot of stress? Also, working out late might keep you up.
 
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on sat i work 5am -1pm then workout 130pm -230pm, then nap 3pm -4pm , then to part time job 5pm-10pm, bed 11pm then up the next mornin at 430am sat is worst day. others not too bad. thursday and friday i work 1030am -7pm then workout 730pm to 930pm.
also do cardio in am for 1 hour. part time job is only 4 days aweek 20 hours per week. 40 hours on full time job. not really stress just not getting bed till late. full time job i work earl 3 days and late 2 days. so somtimes when i wake up i am not sure where i am suppose to be till i find out what day of week it is. where u get that ambiem?
 
I get my Ambiem from a friend who is a Pharmacist. They write so many scripts for these its unreal. Most get written for some bullshit reason but a lot of people actually do have a problem. With your schedule your problem looks like not enough sleep. I don't see how you could have a problem falling asleep with all those hours. I work nights so when i get home at the end of the night its hard to just go right to bed. I need time to unwind. I watch some tv or read. Actually sex is the medicine to fall asleep and sleep well but not all of us have that option every night lol....A few beers used to do it for me but Ambiem is the safest and cleanest way to get a complete full nights sleep. I have never slept so well before in my life. It puts you out for 6 to 7 hours and puts you in that deep sleep. You don't wake up all fuzzy headed like you would with zanax or valium etc. I never really needed to take it more than a couple days in a row as it usually gets my sleep pattern fixed quick. Your body has a biological clock and sleeps around that. If you mess with its sync you will cause your body problems. Stress and heavy excercise late at night will also contribute heavily. Hope this helps....
 
its mainly the weekend . friday and sat. the rest of the week
i just drift off. i have cut out late nite eating which help a whole lot. now after 5pm its just some yogurt and maybe a granola bar. except the 2 late exercise nites i now eat just a shake or boiled eggs and rice. nothing heavy.
my cousin is a pharmacist so i will holler at him.
thanks
 
i am pretty sure i have no circadian ryhtyms left... worked 3rd shift for 9 years... i think my body is breaking down due to lack of rest... been having some wierd probs in the past few years that never happened before... kidney stones, forearm splints, and joint problems. Melatonin caused me to have sleep paralysis which is scary as hell if yoou have ever had it... you are awake and can't move for like 30 secs to a minute or so. I can't keep taking benzo's either. At least i am wriing a lot more music these days.
 
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I have problems falling asleep as well, I could lay there for hours on end just thinking about such stupid shit, like what would happen if...kinda stuff, or simulate what training is gonna be like the following day, sometimes I end up solving complex math or physics problems in my head (which takes awhlile). I dont think I ever had sleep paralysis but sometimes id get this thing where all of a sudden evrything feels alot bigger, louder, and just a hell of alot more intense in general. Its really disturbing, I just have to lay there still as possibly cuz even if I move my pincky toe it feels like I slammed my entire leg though the bed and every car that passes by sounds like an M-1 tank, its really sick. But when I eventually fall asleep Im out like a light and dont wanna wake up. I try go to sleep really early though to give myself enough time to actually fall asleep and get my 8-9 hours since I gotta wake up pretty early. But despite getting all that sleep, from the moment I awake to the second I to to bed, im always exhausted and sleepy, the only time im not is when I train, which is one of the reasons I keeps coming back for more.
I cant speak for everyone, but the reason I think alot of people have problems like this is becouse we are immersed in such a busy and high stress enviornment and we're always being bombaded with usless information like the media, or commercial ads triyng to sell us something. So you always have this background noise in your head, constantly thinking and planning out your next move, interpreting data, always being completely devoted to, and involved in your everyday life. And it keeps going even when you no longer need it or theres nothing important to think about, youre brain is trained to do so.
What has helped me somewhat recently is concentrating on something which doesnt require cognitive thought. Try this for instance: close your eyes, youre bound to see some particles in the darkness moving around or something...just concentrate on them, dont try to see an image in them just concentratre on looking at them. If your attention starts to wonder, focus it back on the particles. In the long run you wanna teach yourself to stop the random thoughts and think of absolutly nothing (which is an oxymoron if you think about it). Regardless, this kind of thoughless state has been practiced for centuries in the east and has been proven to provide numerous health benefits as well as a very anabolic enviornment in the body by western medicine.
 
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I would think most of us are suffering from an overactive sympathetic nervous system.

Unless something else is wrong, like i'm desperately hungry and don't realize it, i find the herb skullcap works.... it damens the sympathetic nervous system and allows the parasympathetic nervous system to take over..... and let you sleep.
 

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