AWEFUL STATS.. HCM

[LATS]

about a year ago my sister was diagnosed with HCM (hypertrohic cardiomyopathy) or (ihss) .. the disease is largely inherited.. all 6 of my family was told we needed to be tested immediately.. my sister's case was bad enough that she needed a pacemaker at 36 years of age.. well.. people being people, my sisters and brother were not in a big hurry to get tested.. .. well 9 months ago my brother was dianosed with the same disease and is being treated.. then a month ago my other sister was diagnosed.. so that is three out of 6.. so of course.. before my surgery (umbilical hernia) my doc called and said that he would not recommend the surgery until i was tested..
well.. i took the test and it came back negative.. i took a ekg, echo, ultra sound.. the doc said that my heart was very good and showed no thickening and only very modest enlargement of the ventrical which he said is common for weight lifter and athletes in general..
well. i started to look into this disease and found that it is very common.. 1 in 500 have some sort of HCM according to the mayo clinic.. but, "only" 1% percent of those will die from it.. but, when ya do the math that is alot of deaths.. especially in the young and supposably healthy..
now combine this with the fact that many athletes and average people eat pathetic may take fat burners, stimulants, anabolics, drink in excess, smoke ect ect and we see why some are dropping.. 1 IN 500 PEOPLE.. most will not have symptoms .. most will not even know they have it..
a mid west college had two athletes (basketball) drop in two years.. from this disease.. no symptoms until it hit.. my doctor told me something that kinda shocked me.. he said " oh man.. i am glad for ya.. i was fully expecting you to have it.. based on your family i thought we were going to have a different outcome..".. he told me he sees it pretty often but, since it "rarely" kills he does not recommend any lifestyle changes for most of those diagnosed.. my brother had more "thickening" than he liked and so did my sister.. but, he said for those that have the condition, eating fatty foods (we are most all guilty) taking stimulants (which is very common thses days for fat burning) anabolics (here, here), lack of exercise ect will exasperate the condition which could progressively go from a non issue to death..
as stated before.. mostly it is a "non issue" that requires little to no lifestyle change.. but, if diagnosed with the disease, early prevention is the key.. eat right, take your oils, and other heart healthy supplements, moderation in gear ( i know sound like a broken record).. unfortunately, we will still see people way to young and otherwise healthy dropping from this condition.. some universities are starting to look at mandatory testing for their athletes.. not trying to scare ya.. just letting ya know this could be what we are seeing.. so keep bodyfat in check.. eat healthy, cardio, and moderate to low gear use.. no need to awaken a "sleeping giant"..

 

[JETHRO TULL]

LATS....GOOD POST.

GLAD YOU ARE OKAY...! MAN, DON'T WORRY ABOUT SOUNDING LIKE A BROKEN RECORD......SING IT OUT. WE ALL NEED TO HEAR IT. LEAST I DO.

 

[homonunculus]

Glad you're OK, Buddy!

Sorry that your sister had to get a pacemaker. I hope she's OK otherwise (or as well off as could be expected).

-R

 

[LATS]

THANKS GUYS.. hey homon, i am sure you are aware of all this by your studies.. but, wow.. i never thought it was that common..

 

[ironfreak83]

I have a condition called SVT, and I've had it since i was 16 years old. i don't feel like typing paragraphs about it, but heres a website that explains most of it.

http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/106/25/e206

basically i was born with an abnormal circuit in my heart that shouldnt be there. so a few times a week, sometimes more, the signal to make my heart beat will get stuck on that circuit and keep going around in circles causing it to beat anywhere from 150-200 beats per minute. it happens a lot when my heart rate raises. it does it when i'm lifting super intensely, but more so when i'm running or doing some sort of cardio. the doctor knows about this and my past usage of AAS, and to be honest, when i'm on cycle, i have less episodes and the doctor says it "shouldn't" do anything to make the SVT worse.

however, i am getting a procedure done in 2 months where they go in and ablate the extra, uneeded circuit. after this is done, there is a 99% chance that the SVT will never occur again in my lifetime. i've thought for a long time about trying to live with the SVT, but sometimes it gets in the way of my lifting, and i also play semi-pro football and it takes all the fun out of it when i have to constantly try and get the SVT back to normal. the only way to stop an episode is called the Valsalva maneuver. this is where i hold me breath for about 20 seconds, let it out, then take another deep breath and let it out slowly. it's hard to do this when you're running around on the football field in 100 degree heat. in the gym, i can just take 5 minutes between sets and stop the SVT.

i've had this for 7 years and it really kills my cardio, since when it happens you get shortness of breath and you feel a lot weaker. the doctor says that after the procedure my endurance and cardio will be 10 times better almost instantly, since my heart won't go to 200 beats per minute and stay that way even when i'm resting not doing anything. don't know why i posted all this, i guess i just wanted to tell someone else, since the only people that know about it is my family and my wife. i thought it kinda fit in the thread too. does anyone else here ever experience this or know someone that has it? i still have second thoughts about gettin the procedure, but this really limits what i want to do physically, and I want to be able to do the things that make me happy without having to fight this shit ever time ya know? lol anyways thanks for lettin me ramble on. oh and i'm off cycle until i get this shit fixed, if anyone was wondering about that.

 

[Tyrone]

I have a condition called SVT, and I've had it since i was 16 years old. i don't feel like typing paragraphs about it, but heres a website that explains most of it.

http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/106/25/e206

basically i was born with an abnormal circuit in my heart that shouldnt be there. so a few times a week, sometimes more, the signal to make my heart beat will get stuck on that circuit and keep going around in circles causing it to beat anywhere from 150-200 beats per minute. it happens a lot when my heart rate raises. it does it when i'm lifting super intensely, but more so when i'm running or doing some sort of cardio. the doctor knows about this and my past usage of AAS, and to be honest, when i'm on cycle, i have less episodes and the doctor says it "shouldn't" do anything to make the SVT worse.

however, i am getting a procedure done in 2 months where they go in and ablate the extra, uneeded circuit. after this is done, there is a 99% chance that the SVT will never occur again in my lifetime. i've thought for a long time about trying to live with the SVT, but sometimes it gets in the way of my lifting, and i also play semi-pro football and it takes all the fun out of it when i have to constantly try and get the SVT back to normal. the only way to stop an episode is called the Valsalva maneuver. this is where i hold me breath for about 20 seconds, let it out, then take another deep breath and let it out slowly. it's hard to do this when you're running around on the football field in 100 degree heat. in the gym, i can just take 5 minutes between sets and stop the SVT.

i've had this for 7 years and it really kills my cardio, since when it happens you get shortness of breath and you feel a lot weaker. the doctor says that after the procedure my endurance and cardio will be 10 times better almost instantly, since my heart won't go to 200 beats per minute and stay that way even when i'm resting not doing anything. don't know why i posted all this, i guess i just wanted to tell someone else, since the only people that know about it is my family and my wife. i thought it kinda fit in the thread too. does anyone else here ever experience this or know someone that has it? i still have second thoughts about gettin the procedure, but this really limits what i want to do physically, and I want to be able to do the things that make me happy without having to fight this shit ever time ya know? lol anyways thanks for lettin me ramble on. oh and i'm off cycle until i get this shit fixed, if anyone was wondering about that.

Still a great post everyone should read...Thanks IF83!!!

 

[Tyrone]

about a year ago my sister was diagnosed with HCM (hypertrohic cardiomyopathy) or (ihss) .. the disease is largely inherited.. all 6 of my family was told we needed to be tested immediately.. my sister's case was bad enough that she needed a pacemaker at 36 years of age.. well.. people being people, my sisters and brother were not in a big hurry to get tested.. .. well 9 months ago my brother was dianosed with the same disease and is being treated.. then a month ago my other sister was diagnosed.. so that is three out of 6.. so of course.. before my surgery (umbilical hernia) my doc called and said that he would not recommend the surgery until i was tested..
well.. i took the test and it came back negative.. i took a ekg, echo, ultra sound.. the doc said that my heart was very good and showed no thickening and only very modest enlargement of the ventrical which he said is common for weight lifter and athletes in general..
well. i started to look into this disease and found that it is very common.. 1 in 500 have some sort of HCM according to the mayo clinic.. but, "only" 1% percent of those will die from it.. but, when ya do the math that is alot of deaths.. especially in the young and supposably healthy..
now combine this with the fact that many athletes and average people eat pathetic may take fat burners, stimulants, anabolics, drink in excess, smoke ect ect and we see why some are dropping.. 1 IN 500 PEOPLE.. most will not have symptoms .. most will not even know they have it..
a mid west college had two athletes (basketball) drop in two years.. from this disease.. no symptoms until it hit.. my doctor told me something that kinda shocked me.. he said " oh man.. i am glad for ya.. i was fully expecting you to have it.. based on your family i thought we were going to have a different outcome..".. he told me he sees it pretty often but, since it "rarely" kills he does not recommend any lifestyle changes for most of those diagnosed.. my brother had more "thickening" than he liked and so did my sister.. but, he said for those that have the condition, eating fatty foods (we are most all guilty) taking stimulants (which is very common thses days for fat burning) anabolics (here, here), lack of exercise ect will exasperate the condition which could progressively go from a non issue to death..
as stated before.. mostly it is a "non issue" that requires little to no lifestyle change.. but, if diagnosed with the disease, early prevention is the key.. eat right, take your oils, and other heart healthy supplements, moderation in gear ( i know sound like a broken record).. unfortunately, we will still see people way to young and otherwise healthy dropping from this condition.. some universities are starting to look at mandatory testing for their athletes.. not trying to scare ya.. just letting ya know this could be what we are seeing.. so keep bodyfat in check.. eat healthy, cardio, and moderate to low gear use.. no need to awaken a "sleeping giant"..

Thanks Lats...It opens eyes...Glad you're OK though

 

[ironfreak83]

Still a great post everyone should read...Thanks IF83!!!

i don't like tellin people about this, because to me it's a sign of weakness. i mean i can still run a few miles and can run a 40 in 4.8 seconds, this just makes it a lot harder than it should be. but, like my wife keeps sayin, just think how easy all this is gonna be when i don't hafta worry about and deal with this crap anymore. i think i'll start making more strength gains as well. was debating about bringing this up on alinboard, i just don't want people to think of me any different.

 

[ironfreak83]

yeah Lats , i'm definately glad everything checked out good for ya. hopefully everything goes well for everyone else in your family that has the condition. didn't really mean to change the subject in the thread, but i thought it kinda fit with what you stated about athletes having heart conditions and such. i think it's probably more common than what most realize.

 

[Tyrone]

I hear ya bro...But nothing is gonna give a sign of weakness from you...You out roar most...No worries either...You are one fast BIG man!!!

 

[LATS]

thanks tyrone and ironfreak.. i hate to say it but, there is one funny thing about this whole episode.. my brother did not have any symptoms before the test.. now.. he is always clinching his heart and saying he has to lay down when he gets stressed.. he has always been known as a "drama queen".. as my sisters call him.. it was not 1/2 a hour before the whole "drama" began.. lol.. love him.. but, i refer to him as my "5th sister"..
ironfreak.. i know what ya mean about "perceived weakness".. but, trust me.. most people would have given up by now.. you still in the game .. THAT IS NOT A WEAKNESS.. good luck with the procedure.. let us know what happens..

 

[ironfreak83]

thanks tyrone and ironfreak.. i hate to say it but, there is one funny thing about this whole episode.. my brother did not have any symptoms before the test.. now.. he is always clinching his heart and saying he has to lay down when he gets stressed.. he has always been known as a "drama queen".. as my sisters call him.. it was not 1/2 a hour before the whole "drama" began.. lol.. love him.. but, i refer to him as my "5th sister"..
ironfreak.. i know what ya mean about "perceived weakness".. but, trust me.. most people would have given up by now.. you still in the game .. THAT IS NOT A WEAKNESS.. good luck with the procedure.. let us know what happens..

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thanks bro, that means a lot, seriously. i've got an appointment on april 19th to set it up, so hopefully about aweek or so after that i'll get it done. it only takes about an hour and i'll be able walk on my own 2 feet out of there and go home afterwards. hopefully anyways. i know what you mean about the whole drama queen thing. i've got a few people in my family like that as well