Big Beyond Belief

DIEZEL666 · Jul 21, 2003

Phil, I was re-reading an old copy of this book and I thought I would get some clarification from you since it was swiped from you. When doing the three sets of a bodypart, whether it is 15's, 10's or 5's, do you change exercises or stick with the same one for that day? Also, it just says Thighs in the program. How did you break that down between quads and hams? 2 sets quads, 1 set hams, or vice versa? Would there be any benefit to doing all of the rep ranges on the same day? For example flyes for 15, db press for 10, dips for 5.
How did you do your warmups? Thanks again for all the great info, and I apologize if this bothers you.

edge250 · Jul 21, 2003

i used "serious growth" program my sr. year in high school and put on 12lbs. in one go thru naturally. eventually the training 6 days a week burnt me out. don't think i could handle it now working full time.

DIEZEL666 · Jul 21, 2003

Well, I already do something similiar to the program. I just figured if Phil's worked better I would find out why. I do my current program like this: Day 1 Legs; Day 2 Chest/Back; Day 3 Shoulders/Arms. Repeat. I typically take sundays off. I pick one exercise for the bodypart I'm working that day and work to a max set of 5 or 6.

DIEZEL666 · Jul 21, 2003

Bump.

DIEZEL666 · Jul 22, 2003

Bump for Phils response.

PHIL HERNON · Jul 23, 2003

Sorry, I just saw this

I did 3 sets per bodypart and each bodypart 3 times per week. The middle workout I was always weaker, but continually got stronger each week.

DIEZEL666 · Jul 23, 2003

Phil, did you add a set each week like costa recommends, using "hyper adaption and hyper acceleration" then back off for a period? Also, did you split your rep ranges between days (all 15's on Mon and Tues, 10's on Wed and Thurs, 5's on Fri and Sat)? Thanks for your time.

xcelbeyond · Jul 23, 2003

Re: Sorry, I just saw this

Originally posted by PHIL HERNON I did 3 sets per bodypart and each bodypart 3 times per week. The middle workout I was always weaker, but continually got stronger each week.

Hey Phil - this sounds a whole lot like the HST (hypertrophic specific training) program that I just started a while back. I'll post their web site if you haven't seen it. This program has been kicking my butt like no other has!

xcel

PHIL HERNON · Jul 24, 2003

NO

I ALWAYS STAYED AT 3 SETS.

DIEZEL666 · Jul 24, 2003

Phil, how did you split your rep ranges? All 15's on one day, 10's another, etc, or a mix between the days? Did you ever back off for a time, whether reduced volume or a week off? Thanks for the help.

edge250 · Jul 24, 2003

so if you were training each muscle 3x week did you use the chest-back-bis-calves then next day delts-tri's-thighs

DIEZEL666 · Jul 24, 2003

Edge, what program did you use when you made your gains? Was it Serious Growth or Big Beyond Belief?

edge250 · Jul 24, 2003

can't remember it was the one advertised with phil's pic and pushed by leo costa, basically used the split i stated above and time between sets and reps were changed each week.

PHIL HERNON · Jul 24, 2003

I used

Low, mod, high reps each workout. My split was chest, back, shoulders, hamstrings day one. Day two was Thighs, calves, bis, tris.

edge250 · Jul 25, 2003

i take it the 7th day was reserved for the "pump"

dragonfire101 · Jul 25, 2003

i used the big beyond belief vol 3 back as a jr in high school and made some great gains natuaraly. now that i look at that book it seems i would be over training if i attempeted those routines now.