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Changes in the Bodybuilding Culture since the 80s

hawkmoon

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I had forgotten about this thread (hadn't clicked on it, but have seen that's it's lively). I just put up a post on IG about this topic.


Hawkmoon - I'll go tag you there now!

-S

Thanks. I'm glad this thread has brought some enjoyment to many of us.
 

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Phil Hill was a favorite of mine from that era as well.
I met Phil backstage at the New Englands in 1989 and his size and fullness was astonishing. He was very kind and left me with some words that motivated me to keep going - so important for a 19 year old.

 

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One big lad there.

There were some real monsters here and there back then, the two Phil's
for example. Harbingers of the future.

In my humble opinion, the most significant change is the passage of time.

It is unavoidable that over time, as more people become exposed to body-
building we will locate more generically gifted people. This holds up in all
athletic endeavors where records continue to be broken. Will we had a few
'outliers' back in the 60's, 70' but they were few and far between. Now they
seem to be springing up all over the place.

Many attribute it to drugs, diet, training principles, etc. While that certainly
plays a part but the role of genetics trumps all and time trumps that.

In the next 20 - 30 years if I am still alive, it will be very interesting be see
who and what is standing on stage.

FYI . . . the bw shot of Phil's has been 'shopped'. No way his arm is that big.
 

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Oat Bran is one of my staples that I eat. I got the idea from Matt Porter and it's been a great alternative to oatmeal. Of course Rich was eating it 30 years before.

I like that bar he was curling with
 

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I like that bar he was curling with

That is quite literally a Gaspari Arm Bar, built with the rotating handles so that you can supinate and pronate (turn up and turn down) the hand as you are curling or doing other exercises. I think he just licensed his name to a company who paid him to endorse their products.

I haven't seen one of those in years. They used to have two versions, the plate-loaded barbell version and the cable attachment version.

I remember seeing them in magazines at the time, and in a couple gyms I used to go to, but not for many years, which is a shame as it was a useful tool in the bodybuilder's arsenal.

Now you have me checking online to see if I can find an old used Gaspari bar to put in my basement gym LOL. Memories of a bygone age.

 

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That is quite literally a Gaspari Arm Bar, built with the rotating handles so that you can supinate and pronate (turn up and turn down) the hand as you are curling or doing other exercises. I think he just licensed his name to a company who paid him to endorse their products.

I haven't seen one of those in years. They used to have two versions, the plate-loaded barbell version and the cable attachment version.

I remember seeing them in magazines at the time, and in a couple gyms I used to go to, but not for many years, which is a shame as it was a useful tool in the bodybuilder's arsenal.

Now you have me checking online to see if I can find an old used Gaspari bar to put in my basement gym LOL. Memories of a bygone age.

One of my old gyms had one...can't recall which now, but I know I used it
 

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One of my old gyms had one...can't recall which now, but I know I used it
Yes, me too. I used it a few times but never really got into it. It does feel a bit like using dumbbells because you can supinate and pronate the wrist.
 

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That is quite literally a Gaspari Arm Bar, built with the rotating handles so that you can supinate and pronate (turn up and turn down) the hand as you are curling or doing other exercises. I think he just licensed his name to a company who paid him to endorse their products.

I haven't seen one of those in years. They used to have two versions, the plate-loaded barbell version and the cable attachment version.

I remember seeing them in magazines at the time, and in a couple gyms I used to go to, but not for many years, which is a shame as it was a useful tool in the bodybuilder's arsenal.

Now you have me checking online to see if I can find an old used Gaspari bar to put in my basement gym LOL. Memories of a bygone age.


So that's what that weird thing is in the corner of our gym! Never used it or seen anyone else use it, now I'm curious
 

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Somewhat random question but it happens to coincide with another current thread at the moment and I think it can be applied in this thread as well...
when did bodybuilders start using insulin and who can you point to as "the guy" that caused it's use to explode?
GH use got it's foothold in the mid/late 80's but what about insulin?
 

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Somewhat random question but it happens to coincide with another current thread at the moment and I think it can be applied in this thread as well...
when did bodybuilders start using insulin and who can you point to as "the guy" that caused it's use to explode?

"The guy" is definitely Milos Sarcev, but I'm curious as to its origins as well. There had to be someone low-key experimenting before him.
 

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Somewhat random question but it happens to coincide with another current thread at the moment and I think it can be applied in this thread as well...
when did bodybuilders start using insulin and who can you point to as "the guy" that caused it's use to explode?
GH use got it's foothold in the mid/late 80's but what about insulin?
Tim Belknap. Milos claims he was the first and i've heard others say this too. I've also heard Chad Nichols. I've heard Dave P. say that Tim Belknap used to say that he believed insulin helped his bodybuilding even though he was legitimately diabetic during his career. I know Tim's done a few interviews but i don't think he's spoken much about his drug use. Would be pretty interesting if he did IMO.
 

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"The guy" is definitely Milos Sarcev, but I'm curious as to its origins as well. There had to be someone low-key experimenting before him.
Tim Belknap. Milos claims he was the first and i've heard others say this too. I've also heard Chad Nichols. I've heard Dave P. say that Tim Belknap used to say that he believed insulin helped his bodybuilding even though he was legitimately diabetic during his career. I know Tim's done a few interviews but i don't think he's spoken much about his drug use. Would be pretty interesting if he did IMO.
Don't know much on Tim Belknap, but much of Milos' early information came from his family. His mother, father, and sister are all doctors and his parents did research on insulin. He studied that material and started formulating insulin protocols for bodybuilding. He's talked about this with some more detail in RX Muscle interviews.
 

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I believe Belknap was a Type 1 diabetic. He'd straight up die w/o using insulin.

Appears your correct danieltx. Milos talks about his reasoning for insulin use in this article.
 

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That's two different questions: who was the first bodybuilder to use insulin for bodybuilding purposes, and then who popularized the use of insulin in bodybuilding.

Tim Belknap was a Type 1 diabetic, so he needed to use insulin, but he was also the first bodybuilder to try to manipulate the amount/frequency of his insulin injections to gain as much muscle as possible. He had an amazing physique for his time. Unfortunately his career was cut short by a heart attack at the age of 37, which may have been due to genetics or the recklessness of his approach. But he did have an incredible physique in his day, and was the first bodybuilder known to have used insulin for muscle-building purposes.

The guy who popularized it's use and came up with effective protocols was Milos, and then guys like Strydom and Nasser El Sonbaty who were following the protocols.
 

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I remember Belknap back in the day as he was featured in a lot of the BB books of the era.

I had no idea about insulin in BB until probably the late 2000s. I'll always associate it with Milos.
 

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When I started using insulin in 1996, it was already old news and commonly accepted that all pros were using it.
 

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