Clen was the very worst thing I've ever tried. Like ever... High BP, heart pumping, severe headache, feeling of impending doom.
But anxiety was not part of it.
I get the shakes like no other on clen. its a love hate thing. I honestly cant even hand write anything if I wanted to while on clen. although I'm already pretty shaky as it is so that just amplifies it 10 fold. good fat burner though
The shakes can lead to some embarrassing situations. Like having to hold my cup of coffee with both hands at work and still having problems guiding it to my mouth. Coworkers are like wtf is wrong with you. One actually said, "did you fry your nervous system with too many steroids?"
oh I'm totally used to that. people at work swore I have the beginning stage of Parkinson's... even when not on clen I shake. I know all about double fisting just to give some stability to my drink. people would joke at work saying they were gonna get me a spoon with a swivel so when I shake I don't drop my spoon/fork of food when I try to eat.. lmao
it used to bother me but now I don't even care. friends joke about it, but strangers look the other way.. no one fucks with a big ripped sleeved out dude with a massive beard :headbang:
I have the same thing, and even just coffee gives me lots of tremors. My gp doc noticed it and said "I see you shake from high anxiety, I'll write you a script for propranolol". I don't think it's from anxiety though and I didn't like the beta-blocker.
I shake as well. Idk why but it gets embarrassing some timesIve taken propranolol before and it actually did help quite a bit for my shakes. they were still there but it definitely made it not so bad.
I take another beta blocker now though, Atenolol. once a day dosage is easier then like every 4-6 hours with propranolol. propranolol was faster acting though and a lil bit more effective for my tremors
What fat burner would u suggest that would not give anxiety and panic attacks?
Now that clen is out of the system, i feel so much better. Was having weird anxiety and panics.
I'm looking into green tea extract pill form. What do u suggest?
Am J Clin Nutr. 2003 Jun;77(6):1442-7.
Effect of chewing gum containing nicotine and caffeine on energy expenditure and substrate utilization in men.
Jessen AB1, Toubro S, Astrup A.
Nicotine replacement therapy limits weight gain after smoking cessation. This finding is partly attributable to the thermogenic effect of nicotine, which may be enhanced by caffeine.
We assessed the acute thermogenic effects of chewing gum containing different doses of nicotine and caffeine.
This randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover study included 12 healthy, normal-weight men (aged 18-45 y). Energy expenditure was measured with indirect calorimetry before and 2.5 h after subjects chewed each of 7 different types of gum containing the following doses of nicotine/caffeine: 0/0, 1/0, 2/0, 1/50, 2/50, 1/100, and 2/100 mg/mg.
The thermogenic responses (increases over the response to placebo) were 3.7%, 4.9%, 7.9%, 6.3%, 8.5%, and 9.8%, respectively, for the gums containing 1/0, 2/0, 1/50, 2/50, 1/100, and 2/100 mg nicotine/mg caffeine (P < 0.05 for all). Adding caffeine to 1 and 2 mg nicotine significantly enhanced the thermogenic response, but changing the caffeine dose (from 50 to 100 mg) did not change the thermogenic effect. None of the combinations changed the respiratory quotient compared with placebo, which indicates that glucose and fat oxidation rates were increased to a similar extent. Side effects occurred only with 2 mg nicotine.
One milligram of nicotine has a pronounced thermogenic effect, which can be increased by approximately 100% by adding 100 mg caffeine. Increasing the nicotine dose to 2 mg does not increase the thermogenic effect but produces side effects in most subjects. Caffeine may be useful in preventing weight gain after smoking cessation if its thermogenic effect can be used to enhance nicotine's effect on long-term energy balance.