Ok, so I asked a few weeks back if anyone knew not an exact risk/health effect with GH added to TRT on the heart and in general health but a close ballpark? Didn’t really get anything definitive.. We’ve seen the case studies of AAS abuse and some of those with GH added and those dosages were pretty crazy and people had significant health issues and some at young ages..
I’m aware of the risks of high dosages with either one/both and don’t plan on doing anything like that myself but we don’t hear much about actual therapeutic dosages.. I’m talking 150-200mg Test MAX (whatever brings you into high range of normal) and about 3iu GH MAX...
The studies below aren’t exactly that but they talk about how TRT and GH therapy can be beneficial for Heart Failure and some say that the studies done have actually improved heart function, elasticity etc.. The Harvard article talks about an overview of several studies and how it positively affected patients and no negative health effects on lipids or blood sugar but there was/might be an increased risk of cancers with GH, Prostate was mentioned...
All in all, I’m confused now and don’t really know what to take away from this... We’ve seen how large doses of AAS with moderate/high doses of GH negatively affects health and heart function etc but some of these are actually showing improvements with therapeutic doses if I’m reading it correctly... So is there someone educated in the medical field that can interpret or maybe give a better estimate of what I’m asking? Is there a happy middle ground where someone can use actual therapeutic doses of Test/GH and not really have to worry about the heart enlargement and function and other possible health issues that can occur and possibly experience some benefits and preventative effects with the therapeutic doses?
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I’m aware of the risks of high dosages with either one/both and don’t plan on doing anything like that myself but we don’t hear much about actual therapeutic dosages.. I’m talking 150-200mg Test MAX (whatever brings you into high range of normal) and about 3iu GH MAX...
The studies below aren’t exactly that but they talk about how TRT and GH therapy can be beneficial for Heart Failure and some say that the studies done have actually improved heart function, elasticity etc.. The Harvard article talks about an overview of several studies and how it positively affected patients and no negative health effects on lipids or blood sugar but there was/might be an increased risk of cancers with GH, Prostate was mentioned...
All in all, I’m confused now and don’t really know what to take away from this... We’ve seen how large doses of AAS with moderate/high doses of GH negatively affects health and heart function etc but some of these are actually showing improvements with therapeutic doses if I’m reading it correctly... So is there someone educated in the medical field that can interpret or maybe give a better estimate of what I’m asking? Is there a happy middle ground where someone can use actual therapeutic doses of Test/GH and not really have to worry about the heart enlargement and function and other possible health issues that can occur and possibly experience some benefits and preventative effects with the therapeutic doses?
Growth hormone and testosterone in heart failure therapy - PubMed
Testosterone deficiency and growth hormone resistance are positively associated with a poor state of heart failure. Treatment of deficiency improves outcomes in heart failure; however, there is a significant paucity of data with regard to testosterone and heart failure as well as a significant...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Myths and truths of growth hormone and testosterone therapy in heart failure - PubMed
Heart failure is a chronic clinical syndrome with very poor prognosis. Despite being on optimal medical therapy, many patients still experience debilitating symptoms and poor quality of life. In recent years, there has been a great interest in anabolic hormone replacement therapy - namely...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Growth hormone, athletic performance, and aging - Harvard Health
Some men use growth hormone as an anti-aging treatment, even though it is illegal to market it for this purpose. Studies of test subjects who took growth hormone found a high incidence of side effe...
www.health.harvard.edu
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